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Date of Hike: Friday, August 27, 2010 |
| Awesome! The weather was mild the day we went (about 80 during the day and 50/60 at night). Did this as an overnighter. Took less than two hours to get to top and an hour and 15 to get back down (came back down the way we went up).
The hike itself was not off the charts until we got to the rock scramble. Not difficult, but very fun. The views from the top were amazing. The sky was very clear and there was not much humidity, so visability was great. The breeze at the top was constant and cool. At night, the temp was perfect for sleeping without a tent.
Did not encounter that many bugs at all and only saw a few birds which was odd. A few flies here and there, but they did not bother us much. Take a camera and if you are doing this as an overnight trip, plan to camp at the top. The view of the stars was perfect. Contacted GW forest ahead to ask about where you can/cannot set up camp and you can camp anywhere. Saw one other group and a few ATV lights at night, but other than that, it was quiet.
Recommend it highly
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Date of Hike: Sunday, July 04, 2010 |
| A solid hike and a wonderful view. I wish I had attempted it for sunset. From the peak of Duncan Knob, my compass indicated the best view opened due west. I suspect it would have been perfect for sunset, though the scramble down those rocks again would have been a tricky. I'm not familiar with GW National Forest guidelines/rules, but I wonder if you could just pitch camp on top of the Knob? If so, I'd definitely go back to do just that. Plenty of room up there to set up a nice camp. Failing that though, there's a large camp site at the bottom, where the blue and white trails converge.
I echo an earlier reviewer's thoughts on just heading back the way I came: after the knob, the rest of the hike was more of a chore with not so much pay-off (very overgrown, plenty of ticks, no views to speak of). Nevertheless, it was nice and shaded when the sun was on its descent, which was welcome.
I didn't properly estimate water either - I only brought/drank 32 oz. I would have been happier with twice that, minimum.
Overall: a great workout, a beautiful view of God's country.
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mch
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Date of Hike: Sunday, June 27, 2010 |
The summit makes this hike totally worth it. Scrambling over a bunch of medium to large size rocks and boulders on a steep grade to get to the top is a great challenge on top of a moderately difficult ascent. The views are awesome. The trail is difficult, so it's great for a good challenge or a workout, but I would honestly go back down the way I came up instead of following the map and going the loop. The red blazed trail on the other side of the mountain is really windy and kind of overgrown. It's great if you want an adventure.
Be sure to bring water. I didn't read the trail's instructions well enough, and when they say bring plenty of water, they mean it.
Also, the trail is quite secluded. I never saw another person on the trail, and I saw a few deer and a black bear. No snakes, though, for which I was quite glad considering the pictures of the trail on this site.
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Date of Hike: Monday, January 18, 2010 |
| First I would like to say bring two maps, my friend and I lost ours in the first mile. With that being said, the orange and the yellow trailblazes looked A LOT alike. I thought that it was a great hike, but you better be in fair shape if you want to complete the loop in 4 hours. Great views, and only came across one other couple while there. The ground today was had very few ice spots. Also, the water has run through the ground and pushed up the trail and froze it again making it a fun hike when you are stepping into ground that crunches down an inch or more. Overall, it was a GREAT hike, the rock scramble was fun. There is a great camp site right below the Knob making it an entertaining thought to turn this trip into an overnighter sometime in the future.
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Date of Hike: Saturday, October 31, 2009 |
| Great workout and super payoff up on Duncan Knob. For the most part, however, just a pleasant walk through the woods. The trail was a bit rocky most of the time and slippery due to the morning shower, but not too bad. The views from the Knob are beautiful and not to be missed. Be very careful on the rocks, there are some super slippery spots (I almost ate some granite near the top). Wear the right shoes and enjoy. The wind was blowing 40 at least at the peak and the panoramic view was worth the rock scramble. I would have rated this higher had there been a few more payoffs and a break from some of the monotony on the Massanutten Trail, however, this is still a keeper hike.
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Date of Hike: Sunday, October 25, 2009 |
| This was a very nice hike. Started the hike at about 11:30 and headed up the Scothorn Trail which is more steep than is to be expected as soon as you get out of the car. After stretching the legs on the uphill, it became much easier. Got to the intersection of the Masnutten trailand took that to the intersection of the Strickler Knob trail and Massanutten trail. Went to Strickler knob which was the highlight of the trip and should be added to this hike at only 1.5 miles out to the knob and back. Spent some time out on the knob which was a lot of fun and not to be missed. Hiked over to Duncan knob next and climbed to the top for some great views. Could sit up on either of the two rocky outcroppings for a long time but it was time to leave. The trails between the rocks get a 3/4 but the rocks make this trip. Would do again and wonder how I missed this trail for so long.
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Date of Hike: Monday, October 12, 2009 |
| Started this hike from the Orange Massanutten Trail. Took me two hours to get to Duncan Knob following the Orange-Yellow-Blue-and White trails. Once I got to Duncan Knob, I was impressed by the bouldering and the effort to climb to the top of the Knob. Very good views once you hit the top. Leaves are showing fall colors. This is definitely a "keeper" hike to do again the future. I went back the same route rather than go down the blue into the valley. I knew I had a major uphill hike on the Orange so I kept it simple today. 4 1/2 hours total it took me to complete the hike.
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Date of Hike: Sunday, August 23, 2009 |
Right turn off 211 has Crisman Hollow sign on the left of road and brown 274 post on right. On other side of 211 is a yellow building. Wear long sleeves & pants. Respray for bugs before starting the orange trail.
When I read all the comments I wasn't expecting much today. We (9 hikers from meetup.com) did Overall Run last Sunday & got a great workout. This billed itself as more elevation gain taking less time so I figured it would be a nice hike but nothing to write home about. Wow was I wrong. There were several stretches going up which were a nice workout. The scramble was a lot of fun and the view breath taking -- clear -- we could see forever. We took a different route down the rock scramble and enjoyed every minute of the hike. Ran into one person on the way to the scramble and 3 mountain bikers with a chain saw cutting up a huge log so they could ride by.
We'll be back to see the fall folliage.
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Date of Hike: Saturday, April 25, 2009 |
Our route took in both Strickler Knob and Duncan Knob over a two-night, 8.63 mile, trek. We started from the Gap Creek trailhead on the Crisman Hollow road climbing to the Scothorn Gap trail in the opposite, counter clockwise, direction from those on this web page. It's a rocky jeep trail and has a lot of wet spots from springs and runoff. The weather was unseasonably warm all weekend, near 90 degrees, and there weren't any leaves on the trees in this area. A recent forest fire had scorched the ridge above the campsites along the Crisman Hollow road upward and southeastward toward Waterfall Mt and Strickler Knob. The fire seemed to have burned the top of the duff and some brush but didn't burn the bigger trees. The ridge trail south to Strickler Knob was rocky as you'd expect so we dropped packs for the side hike and rockscramble to the knob. The air was clear and the views from Strickler Knob were outstanding. We continued toward the campsite below Burner's Gap through more area that had been scorched by the fire. The trail had been bulldozed probably in an effort to stop the fire. Cold water from the stream was a welcome relief when we got to camp. The second morning we climbed the ridge to Peach Tree Gap and dropped packs for the rockscramble to Duncan Knob. The views were just as good as you see them in the pictures on this site - no snakes though. We returned to the trailhead by the Gap Creek trail. If you're hiking or backpacking in this area take plenty of water and a means of purifying more from streams and seeps. Camps you find on the ridges are dry. Sunscreen and bug spray are also recommended. The bugs on Duncan knob really got a piece of us but overall it was a good hike.
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Date of Hike: Sunday, November 02, 2008 |
My wife and did this trail on a 60 degree sunny day in early November. The leaf color was past its peak but still interesting, the skies were hazy but clear and the temperature was perfect. The first half of the hike was the best part with the payoff being, of course, Duncan Knob itself. The views were very nice and no one was there but us. One negative aspect was the large number of bugs that were swarming the knob... we hadn't brought insect repellent because it was November after all, so instead of lazing around resting we ate lunch and then headed out fairly quickly. The return leg on the Massanutten Trail was a little disappointing... the 1/2 mile down the Gap Creek Trail was rocky and the fallen leaves hid the rocks which made the footing treacherous, and in general the surroundings were not really noteworthy. This trail was the odd exception where I would probably have been happier not doing a loop but just returning the same way we came in. All in all a good workout and a good hike.
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Brandon
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Date of Hike: Sunday, September 07, 2008 |
Arrived at 12:30 on a great Sunday and only 2 other vehicles were in the parking lot.
Nice views up top. The climb up to the knob was more rock field climbing than I was expecting - I thought more boulders and rock faces would be involved. Took that little shortcut trail north of the pond - there was a yellow arrow that indicated to not take the trail, but it's no big deal in my view.
The trail in sections were boggier than I expected. And the 2 creeks had more water in them than I expected, considering the time of year, and how close their headwaters are. So you do at least have water to filter at the very beginning/end, and the halfway point.
The middle half of the Massanutten trail was pretty bad. Overgrown in many areas, thanks in part to all the dead trees allowing all that vegetation to flourish.
Also, VA-211 is, I think, one of the nicer backcountry roads to drive on. Smooth gravel, and mostly straight driving.
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Larry
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Date of Hike: Friday, August 15, 2008 |
I should have read the reviews before taking the hike. I have hiked Duncan Knob before but it has been a few years and I was unsure of how to get back so I used the “get directions” section from the HikingUpward website and I found the Google Maps directions misleading near the end of the trip. The directions were fine up thru the Fort Valley Road (19.9 mi) and Camp Roosevelt Road (3.3 mi), but then it says slight right at NF-274. At this point you will come to a very obvious turn off at a bend in the road. There are several signs with road numbers and none of the numbers match the numbers given in the directions. We continued on 675 until we passed the Massanutten trail and realized that we should have done something at the intersection. There are two roads to the right... you want to take the middle road and you will know it's the right road because there is a road sign that says “Crisman Hollow Road” which is FR 274. You will first pass a sign for Gap Creek which goes over to Duncan Knob and the next one will be Scothorn Gap Trail which is on the left with parking and several nice camp sites available.
This hike was great. We took the entire family to include our 5 year old. It was a little overgrown with blackberries before you got to the four-way junction with the Massanutten and Massanutten Connector trail, which made it a little difficult for the little guy. However, the blackberries were ripe and made a great addition to breakfast. There were great views from the top Duncan Knob! The little guy and his mother did not go to the top. I cannot comment on the whole loop because when we arrived at the top of Duncan Knob it began to rain heavily with some lightening and we left via the Gap Creek trail and made our way back to Crisman Hollow Road and back to our vehicle. We had hiked the other side of this circuit, the Massanutten Trail as part of the Duncan Knob Hollow hike, (also a great hike) so we opted to use the Gap Creek Trail to see some country we had not hiked on before.
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Date of Hike: Saturday, May 03, 2008 |
Hiked on 5/3/08 and ran into a group of folks that were clearing the trail with chainsaws. All trails are cleared now.
Between the pond, scramble, views, and burnt sections of the forest, this was a very enjoyable and diverse hike.
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Brian
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Date of Hike: Friday, March 14, 2008 |
This hike has wonderful views from the top of the knob! I cannot comment on the whole of the loop because when we arrived at Crisman Hollow Road (274?) we found the gate closed. We didn't want to walk the 4 miles of road to the trailhead and instead took the Massanutten trail off of Mountain Top Rd. to the Gap Creek trail and then on up to the Duncan Knob trail.
The knob was completely deserted and we had a wonderful time at the top. We had two dogs with us, and as stated by many hikers, the scramble up to the knob is hard for dogs. Our older dog made it up with few problems, but we were also hiking with a 10 month old puppy who had a heck of a time getting up. Should your dog hurt itself it would be very hard to get him/her down. We risked it and everything turned out fine.
We hope to return to do the full loop as described. Anyone looking to hike this loop may wish to check with the Forest Service to see if Crisman Hollow Rd. is open or not. The good news is there are other routes up to the knob.
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Date of Hike: Sunday, January 06, 2008 |
READ THIS FIRST FOR DIRECTIONS HELP: I used the 'get directions' section from the HikingUpward website and found the GoogleMaps directions misleading near the end of the trip. The directions were fine up thru the Fort Valley Road (19.9 mi) and Camp Roosevelt Road (3.3 MI) BUT then it says slight right at NF-274. At this point you will come to a very obvious turn off at a bend in the road. There are several signs with road numbers and none of the numbers match the numbers given in the directions. There are two roads to the right... you want to take the middle road and you will know it's the right road because there is a road sign that says 'CHRISMAN HOLLOW ROAD' and shortly thereafter a national forest wooden sign that says 'Entering George Washington Forest' after that it's about 4.5 miles to the trailhead. You will first pass a sign for Signal Knob trail head and next one will be Scothorn Gap Trail which is on the left with parking and several nice camp sites available.
That said: Several nice things about this hike... The aforementioned camping sites make this an ideal place to pull in and car camp the night before the hike then you can hike light the next morning and not have to backpack into some place and find a site. The trails are well marked with the exception, as HikingUpward notes mentions, that I found it hard, after having scrambled to the top of Duncan Knob, finding my way back to the white blazed trail which leads back to the main trail. I might suggest tying a flag or two to trees to find your way back. The view from the top is incredible...There's an interesting dead tree trunk near a fire pit where the Duncan Knob scramble trail joins the main Blue Blazed trail which has become a sort of totem in which small objects (troll dolls, small toys, etc) have been placed into woodpecker divots that you may find interesting or perhaps want to leave a small token of your own.
The hike is mostly up and down without a lot of flat walking. The trails can be a little slick especially on the down side of the mountain which had a lot of leaves so walking sticks are very useful.
Enjoy yourself on this nice hike
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Date of Hike: Thursday, December 27, 2007 |
I did a variation of this hike, only starting at the Gap Creek trailhead, then following in the reverse direction described here, and making a side trip out to Strickler Knob (as far as I know, this is an unofficial trail to the knob).
You should be aware the portions of the Massanutten Trail that were the most severely affected by forest fire are in very poor condition. The trail is obstucted in many places by fallen trees, and getting around them in this area is differcult. Most of the trails on this hike, with the exception of this area, are okay, with only occasional obstructions that are easily traversed.
By beginning the hike from the Gap Creek Trailhead, you have a less steep initial climb, but on a more rocky trail. Also, the parking here is very limited. From this point, it is only about a mile and a half to the Duncan Knob cutoff trail, so you either arrive very early, or very late in your hike.
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Rgrand
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Date of Hike: Saturday, September 29, 2007 |
I was looking for a loop hike between 7 and 9 miles that my dog could go on and this was perfect. The trail was well marked and easy to follow. I would recommend good hiking boots. There are loose rocks throughout the trail and it's easy to turn an ankle or slip on the steep descents.
I agree with the previous review that the rock scramble is too dangerous for dogs. My dog is only 24 lbs so I could pick her up and set her on big rocks, but I only did it for a very short section of the rock scramble and it was really a challenge. As soon as we could see a litte bit of the view, we turned around and went back down.
Other than that, bring a good map of the roads leading to the trailhead. The 211 is not marked so you have to know where to turn in order to find it.
And watch out for snakes.
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Andy, Megan & Timber
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Date of Hike: Sunday, September 02, 2007 |
DO NOT TAKE DOGS ON THIS HIKE IF YOU PLAN TO SUMMIT. We have a 1 year old Weimaraner that was unable to make the 100 yard boulder/rock scramble to the summit. She made it about 20 ft into it and already had a cut on her leg and was whining because she was scared to death.
Other than that, the parking area was little tough to find because there is also a campsite at the parking area. We saw the cars, then saw the tent, and didn't pay much attention because we didn't think that could possibly be the trail head.
I also got directions by mapping with google maps, which took me from Woodstock, VA through Edinburg Gap, and onto about 8 miles of FS roads. We assumed we were lost until we ended up on Rt 211. We then headed towards luray, but found nothing. After reviewing the map at the service station, we got back on track and ended up at the trail head.
The hardest part about this hike is the first mile where you'll climb up up and up without even a warm up. The last ascent of this hike isn't as steep as the description says it is, but that makes for a great home stretch, knowing that you've ascended all there is and you're on your way down.
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Date of Hike: Friday, August 17, 2007 |
| We have hiked in SNP quite a bit , but this was our first trip to Massanutten. We can't wait to go back. Duncan Knob was fantastic. We found the illusive walking stick!
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Date of Hike: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 |
A couple of buddies and i set out to the Scothorn Gap trail and didn't even know about Duncan's Knob. Another fantastic place along this trip was Stickler's Knob. It was about a 1 mile out and back and had some very rewarding views as well. It was hard to notice, not on the map, and you can barely see the sign for it, I highly recommend doing both knobs.
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Kris
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Date of Hike: Monday, April 09, 2007 |
| I found this hike quite nice and a good work out to boot. Yes, the hike goes along some fire road, but they do not appear to be very used. I thought views were pretty good, but there was no leaf cover either. I found it quite interesting that the area had obviously gone through quite a forest fire in the past, and I saw not one animal. Plenty of tracks, but not a single siting. It made for a very eerie quiet. The scramble up to Duncan Knob was awesome! Near vertical in some spots (I hit it straight on). The views are well worth the exertion needed to get to the top. I was happy for colder temps ( it snowed at one point) so the snakes would stay down. Stayed on Duncan Knob for a while adjusting my pack and heating up a nice hot meal. The return trail became a bit overgrown about a mile before reconnecting with Scothorn Gap trail. I wish I had time to do the 1 mile out and back to Sickerts (?) Knob. Oh well, next time.
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Michele
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Date of Hike: Saturday, September 16, 2006 |
| We found this hike disappointing. Except for the rock scramble, it is very boring--just walking along trails that are, or appear to be, fire roads. The scramble and view saved it from being a total loss. We wish we would have done the hike in reverse. It would have made the hike on the blue trail more interesting because of the climb.
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Date of Hike: Sunday, September 03, 2006 |
| Overall, I thought it was a nice hike. There's only one major view along the hike (at the summit) but it's really beautiful. There is a mini-rock scramble near the top which is fun. It made me a little nervous because I'm terrified of heights, but I think it's actually pretty safe. There were hardly any people there when I went, so it seems like a good trail if you want to get away from the world. The only thing that bothered me was the amount of bugs... I really don't mind some, but that day, there were SWARMS of gnats along the vast majority of the trail, to the point where they were bouncing off my eyes. So bug repellent might be a good idea. :-) Basically though, a nice hike to do if you want some peace and quiet, a breathtaking view, and a good workout.
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Date of Hike: Sunday, March 05, 2006 |
My family and I did this hike last weekend, planning to camp at the pond and day hike with our 4 and 8 year old girls to the Knob the next morning. We found that fire road 274 is closed. Was told by other campers it is due to open April 8th. We altered our plans and drove over to the starting point for the Kennedy Peak hike and hiked in on the Massanutten Trial (Orange Blazed). We camped about 2.5 miles in on a pre-civil war iron ore mine site. Note that at three miles are nice designated camp sites next to a stream that we were unaware of.
Next morning continued to the blue blazed Gap Trail (at three miles from parking lot). Half mile later we reached the white blazed trail to the top. Top was a scramble as mentioned. Coming back down was tricky carrying the four year old!
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Tim Koppenhaver
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Date of Hike: Monday, July 04, 2005 |
| I did this hike as an out-and-back, from Scothorn Gap parking area to the peak and back. The pdf map with landmark descriptions from the website were very accurate and helpful. Trails were well marked. Saw lots of deer, including three in the middle of the pond at mile 1 munching weeds. I've been to other area peaks (Signal Knob, Old Rag, Big Schloss, Kennedy Peak) and Duncan is one of the best. Excellent views, and the last quarter mile scramble to the top is awesome.
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Date of Hike: Saturday, May 14, 2005 |
| Looking at the PDF map provided by hiking upward I decided that I wanted to do the hike in reverse. I will explain my route in this review. I prefer to hike up the first 2/3rds of a hike and then down. The first 1. 3 miles of the hike up Scothorn Gap is really on a mini fire road and it is important to note that apparently there was a controlled burn of Middle Mountain at some point in the last 6 months. So the forest floor is charred black completely to your left. It is really kinda cool. I had never seen this before except when Shenendoah had that fire 4 year ago?
Anyway the first 1.3 miles of the hike is on a fire road that is very sandy. I'm not the biggest fan of fire roads. I prefer a true trail but I don't want to sound to picky. Anyway, it is a somewhat steep hike with a couple of swithbacks till your reach the 4-way of trialhead.
As I mentioned before I did the hike in reverse so I started straight ahead on the orange blazed Mansanutten Trail which takes you to the right side of Middle Mountain, then swings left around to the the other side. The fire road area is not as sandy on the stretch.
The trail takes you to the ridge of Middle Mountain for some great views before decending down Middle Mountain and swinging to your the left. The views are not as great on this 2.1 mile strech to the bottom of the blue blazed Gap trail. The rock formations are very interesting though. I saw a few deer hoping around me. They were to my right where there was still green vegetation becaseue everything to my left is burnt. Overall a very peaceful, canopy covered stretch to the start of the Gap Trail.
Swinging to your left as you begin to climb the blue blazed Gap trail you are going into the burnt forest floor. There was some green young vegetation coming up but overall 90% of the floor is just balck cinders. The trail is also very steep so be prepared for this half mile ascent being the toughest part of the hike but it is short.
Reaching the crest of Middle Mountain I headed toward Duncan Knob on the white blazed trail. Very quickly I reached the base of the rock-boulder pile. The formation is about 100 yards up to the very top. The view at the top is tremendous. I was lucky to get good clear weather. After eating I headed down. Be careful going both up and down!! You are climbing over boulders, not rocks. (See Pictures)
After that I headed back down the Gap trail to my right and quickly picked up the yellow balzed Scothorn gap trail to my left.
Total time was 4:20 minutes. So overall the hike is peaceful, quiet and moderately strenous. I am giving it a 3 becasue you never really have a great view away from the trail when you are not on the mountain. The burnt areas give the hike an odd feeling. Anyway that is my 2 cents.
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SteveInFXBG
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Date of Hike: Saturday, February 12, 2005 |
| The views from the top of Duncan Knob, and the fun and challenging rock scramble once you get there, are well worth the trip. The wind was really howling up there that day. I will have to try to make it back sometime to see the mountain laurel in bloom. Also ran into a group of hikers that had an older map (The 50 Hikes in Northern Virginia book) and got them going the right way with some help from the map I printed off of here (you can see the old trails on that map too). Overall, a fun time.
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