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By: The Stars Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, September 06, 2010
The good: The rock scramble was fun and took a good while. Amazing views. Great workout.

The bad: Everything outside of the rock scramble was boring and tenuous (long switchbacks to get to the rock scramble and miles of cut stairs and fire road to get back. No wildlife. Long distances between porta-potties. Gets crowded around noon.

Our recommendation: Start early to avoid crowds. Only bring a small backpack. The rock scramble is too tight and you will find it tedious (I broke mine in a crevice, then had to finished the scramble with a one strap backpack). Wear shoes that provide traction for the rock scramble. We made it with sneakers but slipped a lot and those rocks are sharp/rough. Next time we do it we are bringing gloves. You use your hands A LOT for the rock scramble.

Overall: We are glad we took 4 hour drive to climb Old Rag. The rock scramble and the views at the summit made it worth it. It was 53 degrees when we started our climb at 8am. Wouldn't want to pull a 4 hour circuit in anything over 70 degrees. Also, there are two ways to the summit. The front side with the rock scramble (challenging) and
the back side (way easier). We went up the front and down the backside. Most people were doing it this way but we did pass people coming up the back side (and down the backside) so don't let the rock scramble sway you from hiking it if your older or out of shape.

By: Ken Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, September 04, 2010
Awesome hike.  Don't do it at all if it may be wet.  If dry it is real safe and you can totally avoid cliffs etc - although you can find them too.  Third time doing the hike.  Taking it slow it can take 6 hours.  If you move along you can make it in 4 hours.  Ran on the flatter spots today and turned it into a workout today and it took 3 hours.  Thornton Grill in Sperryville is a good place to get lunch or dinner.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, August 22, 2010
Great hike, but I wanted to send out a little caveat to other people like me - if you're even mildly afraid of heights, this trail is may not be for you.  I never had any doubts I was fit enough to complete the circuit (which fortunately turned out to be true!) but the rock scramble is high and open and there are numerous places where you won't have good footing.  I thought I knew what to expect, but I didn't at all.  There were several places near the summit where I was very, very afraid and had to push myself hard mentally to keep going. I also had a lot of support and encouragement from my fantastic husband. All-in-all though it was fun.  My husband, who has no fear of heights, had an absolute blast the whole way.

Not trying to discourage anyone at all here, just wanted to give a heads up so others like me can be prepared. I'm glad I did it and I'm already thinking about doing it again.

By: Steve Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, August 10, 2010
Started from Berry Hollow lot at 8:00 a.m., went up and back via Saddle Trail. I expected lots of company, but saw only two other people the entire hike. I was on the top for 45 minutes completely alone. It was a hot and humid day - which maybe explains the lack of hikers. But it was breezy and mild at the top.

By: Jeff Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, August 03, 2010
We did the hike a little differently.  We parked at the Berry Hollow parking lot, took the Weakley Hollow fire road up to the trail start, then went counter-clockwise.  It's a nice route because we got to the bathroom area at Old Rag Shelter fairly quickly, which works well if you drove to the mountain.  The trip to the top took not much more than an hour.  Sat on top for awhile, enjoyed the view, then did the rock scramble "backwards."  Fun way to do it.  The only issue is the walk back up the Weakley Hollow fire road once you reach the upper (closed) parking area at the base of the trail.  That part of the hike is 2.5 miles, all uphill.  (If you do the hike clockwise, you take the fire road downhill the entire time, obviously.)  Once you reach the trail start  at the summit of the fire road, you walk downhill for about a mile to the parking lot.  Positives:  Easy to park at Berry Hollow, nice quick run to the top.  Negatives:  Long walk up the fire road.  But fun - if you want something different, try it.

By: Button Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, August 01, 2010
Nice hike, but of course...too many people.  I've done this hike twice. My only complaint is that the rest of the trail (other than the rocks) is actually pretty boring.  There's really not much to see.

By: Marshell Chandler Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, July 31, 2010
I hiked this trail for the first time last fall, a week before the peak of the fall.  I was not prepared for the difficulty.  I had brought only 1 bottle of water, no energy bars and didn't prepare physically.  Still, I made it and was amazed by the beauty of this mountain.  Knowing that I'd be back, I had to bring my wife.  This time, more prepared, it was a much more enjoyable hike.  This is my wife Kim's first hike in the Shenandoah.  She absolutely loved it. And we'll definitely be back. I made a 'Group' on Facebook to show many pictures of this hike. Search 'Old Rag Trail Hike, Shenandoah Mountains' in the groups section.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, July 27, 2010
Sorry if this is an insanely stupid question, but I've never been to SNP or Old Rag. I'll be there next week, and want to do this hike, but I'll be by myself. Not too concerned about the cardio endurance, but am concerned about need for upper body strength and the fact that I'll be by myself and won't have someone to give a push when needed. So my question is...is there anyway to reach the summit by avoiding the rock scramble all together? Would the counterclockwise route do this, or is there no way to get to the summit without the rock scramble? I know this would not be the best experience, but I don't want to skip the whole mountain. Thanks. nicksang1979@aol.com. HU Note: 2 ways to get to the Old Rag Summit without going up the Ridge Trail and doing the rock scrambling. 1. As you stated, do the trail counterclockwise and you will also reach the summit then turnaround and go back down the same way, or 2. Park at the Berry Hollow Parking just beyond the White Oak Canyon Parking. This avoids most of the Weakley Hollow Fire Road from the counterclockwise way in No. 1. It is also a shorter route. http://www.nps.gov/archive/shen/PDF%20documents/Maps/Road_and_Trail/Old_Rag_area.pdf

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, July 25, 2010

This was our first trip to Virginia, and definitely will not be our last. We Brought our camper and Camped at Big Meadows. It was fantastic. I found the hike online before we went, and prepared our gear in case we got stuck or injured on the mountain. I'm 6' and weigh in at 290#'s. It was a difficult hike for me, but I finished the circuit in about 8 hours along with my wife, who is extremely physically fit, along with one of our friends who is in rather good shape. It took it's toll on each of us. The sights were fantastic, and we all enjoyed the rock scramble more than anything else. Small Packs would have been better, we were each carrying 3000-3500 cu.in. packs weighing about 30-35#'s a piece with food and water. But as stated we over prepared. had we not I would probably not made it as i did dehydrate, and suffered from heat exhaustion about 30 minutes from the summit. we each carried 100oz hydration packs and two 30oz nalgene bottles a piece. Make sure you take gatorade powder or some sort of electrolyte replacement with you. we carried an all sport a piece, and would have done better mixing heavily along the way to replace the electrolytes. All i can say is that i would do it again in a heart beat. I shattered my knee two years ago, and have been very inactive do to it, and not wanting to mess it up again. but this was the beginning of getting back in shape. It's strenuous, but can be done!


By: Cindy Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, July 14, 2010
As an earlier poster mentioned, the upper parking lot has been closed since April 2010, so the hike from the lower lot adds an approximate 1.6 miles to the hike.

This was my group’s sixth or so hike up Old Rag. As always, we had a terrific time and thoroughly enjoyed the challenge and amazing views.

The weather was great: 80’s, cloudy during the uphill climb, bright & sunny during the rock scramble and lunch at the summit. The trail conditions were perfect with the exception of one tricky part on the scramble where one of the rock walls was quite wet. We got up just fine, but it was a little more challenging than usual.

We ran into the Old Rag dog part way up the scramble. He was taking a break in the shade. We’ve seen him several times now on Old Rag. Occasionally, he joins us for part of the hike on this day, he had already made the climb.

We ran into only a handful of other hikers and at least three or more park rangers. We didn’t see a single wild animal (excluding birds) this time. All in all, it was a wonderful day and another spectacular climb up Old Rag.

By: Britt Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, July 03, 2010

It's as close to a bluebird day in July as we can have in Virginia.  Not a cloud in the sky all weekend and low humidity made for great climbing weather.  As a group of ten with skill levels from Advanced Mtn. Rescue to rock hugger, we were able to push pull and coax so everyone had a great day.

Cooling tired feet in the creek at the base was a just reqward for everyone.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, June 13, 2010
We did the hike counter clockwise (orange blaze- fire road to the blue blaze) like some other people suggested and I am glad we did.  We saw a deer, a bear, and a snake along the fire road.  It was very warm and we each drank about 2 litres of water. We hardly saw anyone on the way up but after we hit the summit we encountered people every few minutes.  Going down the rock scrambles seemed a lot easier than going up, be ready for some tight areas.  It took us about 4 hours to complete the hike and the only break we took was at the summit.  Overall it was a great hike!

By: Jayme Levy Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, June 05, 2010
This was an amazing hike with the rock scramble being quite challenging. The weather could have been better as it was about 100% humidity that day but definitely worth the drive. I highly recommend!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 29, 2010
This hike was definitely very strenuous if you go the clockwise route to get to the summit.  The rock climbing or as they say scrambling was very unsafe the morning after a rainfall and you should factor this in before deciding to go clockwise to the summit.  If you decide to go counter clockwise it's a much safer journey and includes 2 shelters and one Pit Privy(old fashioned style port-a-john).  We spotted a black bear cub near the old rag shelter standing on a deadfall, but never saw it's mom.  We stayed back and made noise so it would wander off and hopefully momma bear wouldn't feel the need to defend the cub.  We also saw some deer and people riding horses on the return down the easier route.

We recommend taking plenty of water, cameras, backpacks, lunch, snacks, and a very positive attitude.  The upper parking is no longer allowed, so you have to hike from the bottom parking area which makes it a total of 9.40 miles if you do the complete loop.

We were a little upset with the fog, but what can you do?  it was still a very challenging, yet rewarding trail.  Please go the counterclockwise route up and down if you are not in the best shape or have little kids with you.  My girlfriend and i both had difficulties going through the scramble, we both have run 10k's and she's a rock climber, so it's going to be tough!  The rock scramble is definitely something not to be taken lightly.  Thank goodness my girlfriend is a rock climber, otherwise i would have been toast.

There are port-a-jon's in the lower parking area, and upper parking area.  You pay a park fee for a 7-day pass into the park at the little ranger station either on your honor or when they open.  There were lots of people on this hike, but that made it a little safer knowing someone could hustle back to the ranger for help if need be.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 15, 2010

WOW !!  What a hike ! Me and my 13 year old son did this hike and it was great !

Alittle long but it was great at the top .

took a Amateur radio up with us , 2 meter and a back pack beam antenna and worked over 200 miles on 5 watts .

Can't wait to go back !!!

Have fun all !!!    73s KJ4EOZ / Doug

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, May 07, 2010
I've hiked this mountain several times (perhaps 6 or 7 times, including in the dark under the stars) along with dozens of different trails and this one remains one of my favorites in the area.  The rock scramble breaks up the monotony of just hiking up a hill.  The views are absolutely spectacular as well!  It's takes the better part of the day to complete the whole loop and it can get crowded on nice weekends but it's always worth it!  Pack lunch, you'll get hungery!  Be careful to hike it when it's raining or just after it has rained because the rocks can be very slippery.

By: henchman626 Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, May 06, 2010
This was a great hike! Today was my second time hiking the Old Rag loop. My first time was a couple of weeks ago when the weather was in the lower 60s. Today's weather was in the mid to upper 80s. Needless to say, the hike was much more strenuous than my previous visit to Old Rag Mountain. I absolutely love the rock scramble on the top of the mountain and the views are priceless. If you are into photography this is a great place to get some nice shots. There is a lot of wildlife to see. We came across a few snakes on the way down. Nothing poisonous, they were both black racers. If you are hiking on a hot day, just make sure to bring enough water. I finished off my two liters right near the end of the hike.

By: georgiahiker Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 24, 2010
This was a fantastic hike and my new favorite in the East.  I started this hike around 9:15am on a Saturday when it was threatening rain and I pushed quite hard to get to the boulder field before they got wet.  I passed at least 30 people on my way up as I was keen not to get caught in a bottleneck at the scramble.  The rock scrambling was an absolute blast.  I couldn't believe for how long the difficult terrain continued.  I felt like a kid again scrambling over an obstacle course.  In certain places where the rocks were wet it was somewhat difficult to maintain footing.  In one particularly wet spot I was forced to crawl on my stomach to keep from sliding off the rock.  After having the summit to myself for 20 minutes (and making a few phone calls), the crowds joined me and soon there were at least 20 people all vying for good views from the top of the big rocks.  So I took the long route down which was relaxing and easy on the knees.  I even found a spot halfway down to just sit on a rock and enjoy the silence.  I was back to my car at the lower lot (upper lot permanently closed) in about 4 hours and 40 minutes.

I'd recommend that you think twice before attempting this in the rain, unless you're a strong individual.  I'd also recommend gloves.  The granite can be rough on your hands.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, April 22, 2010
Got on the mountain before the sun came up and had it all to myself until 10am.  This is one of my favorite hikes in the park.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 17, 2010
This is certainly one of the best hikes I've been to. The views from the top are out of this world. I went with bunch of friends there today. There were too many boy scouts along the path which slowed us down considerably. Certainly, take lot of water and food, and possibly a wind-cheater when you go there. It can get cold and windy even when it is sunny. I went there alone once while it was raining, I did it at start of spring. Can't wait to go when the fall colors appear. It would be awesome.

P.S. : The upper parking lot has closed permanently. The whole circuit is 7.2 mile. Those additional 1.8 miles to upper parking lot and back are the most boring ones :-(, especially while coming back !

By: Todd Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 17, 2010
Wow! I think I'm more sore this time than when we did it last weekend? Went as part of a group of 6, with 2 virgins. Everybody had a great time! Recommend stopping by the Sharp Rock Winery after the hike. Great place to relax and hang with Oliver(Saint Bernard). Really try to get there early or on a slower day. It may not have been the Boy Scout troops that slowed everyone down, but waiting in line for 15 min to get through a tight passage is no fun. Looking forward to going again soon!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 17, 2010
We aren't regular hikers. This is the toughest one so far for us. Climbing rock was really a challenge and I didn&rsquot expect it. But it feels like a big achievement now. I only knew it was an 8mile trek. It was fun in the beginning and i kept on laughing saying 'It is a heck of a hike'.. man. It was just me and my husband helping each other. As we continued we really struggled to make it thru the rocks. Many times we felt we are not going to make it. Finally glad that that we made it to the summit. We took the saddle trail to come down. That was a longer route, but easier. We were very badly exhausted and dehydrated. We felt feverish in the night. Lesson learnt: start early and carry (and drink) lots of water even if you are not thirsty. The hike was adventurous for us and glad to burn considerable fat from the body.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, April 11, 2010
1st timer. Wow, talk about a challenging hike! Being almost 300lbs didn't make it any easier, but I did it. After drinking 100oz of water and a few snacks, I still shed 9lbs on the climb. My brother and I did it in preperation for a group hike at the same location next sat. Rock scrambling was a welcome change after 1.5hrs of uphill hiking. The views were tremendous and well worth the exhausting ascent. I would recommend Old Rag to anyone looking for a strenuous, but not extreme hike. Allow yourself the full 5hrs and expect to meet many kind hikers along the way. As the last mile or so has some possibly dangerous sections, I wouldn't recommend it for either unexperienced or under 13 hikers. We took the Saddle trail down(long way). I'm looking forward to taking the Ridge Trail(same trail you take up) next week. It is $8 per person, for the minimum pass. However, for $30 you can purchase a year pass which allows up to 4 people and grants access to Skyline Drive. Happy Trails!

By: Fanics Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 10, 2010
This was my first hike of Old Rag this season (5th or 6th hike over all) and it was very enjoyable as always. Gorgeous day with clear skies and temps in the 70s. Started at lower parking around 2:40pm and reached summit by 3:55pm. Did not linger on the summit for long as it was too crowded. Jogged on the way down and got back to lower lot by 4:40pm for a personal best time of 2 hrs flat. Passed another group of about 5-6 people who were also trail running on the way down. Everyone I passed was very friendly and happy to share the trail. Looking forward to clocking in at under 2 hrs next time!

By: Tim Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 10, 2010
I've done many day hikes in Va. and this was the BEST.  I camped with my 10 yr. old son in SNP during Easter Break and we hiked on a Monday.  Get started as early as possible. At 9:30 am there were a few cars in the lower parking area (the upper is now closed permanently) by the time we finished, the lot was jam-packed.  This hike offers a lot for a day hike. Distance, elevation, vistas and of course the rock scramble.  The next time I hike this circuit I would like to back-track on the return. My son and I loved the rocks and they are worth hitting a second time.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, April 05, 2010
Second time doing Old Rag.  Hiked it last November.  Second time seemed a little easier, maybe because I knew what to expect.  We were fortunate enough to have the Old Rag Dogs travel with us up the mountain.  They are great ambassadors.  It was a beautiful day and no haze meant beautiful views.  As always, fellow hikers were very friendly.  Not many folks on the trail that morning, though.  Only incident was for my son (12 yrs old)  When we got to the part where you have to jump across the crevice and climb up a rock on the other side, he almost slid back down into the crevice.  I had to catch him by the arms to keep him from going all the way down.  The rocks were a little slippery and he just didn't have enough momentum going to get him up the other side.  Make sure you get a good jump there.

By: William age 13 Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, March 20, 2010
I think that the Old Rag trail is worth it. I am thirteen, and I hiked this with my dad for the first time. The hike up the mountain on the Ridge Trail was lots of fun and the boulder scrambling was challenging and definitely the highlight of the hike. The views were good once you got above the treeline, and the views from the peak were spectacular. The day I hiked it was a warm, clear day without a cloud in the sky. As for wildlife, I didn't see much other than a few birds and insects. Bring tons of water and food, you'll need the energy and hydration. I suggest going back down the mountain the Ridge Trail because the fire road was long, tedious, and seemed to last forever. Overall, I had an excellent time climbing up Old Rag Mountain and I would recommend it only for people looking for a hard, streneous hike.

By: VArunner Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, March 20, 2010
I hiked old rag the first day of spring. It was a beautiful sunny day and many people had the same idea! This was my first time hiking old rag and it was a great experience. I can't wait to do it again in the summer and fall. It is a difficult hike dealing with the rock scrambles but it's exciting and well worth the views. There were a lot of people with small children (under 10 yrs) who were trying to maneuver the rock scrambles. They were having a very difficult time. I would recommend this hike for people 12 years and older. You have to be in good physical shape and upper body strength on the rocks. Be prepared with plenty of water and snacks.

By: Zachary Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, March 13, 2010
I have been to old rag 3 times. The first time I was just starting middle school and never made it to the true summit, after 4 years I convinced my dad to take me back for spring break .But it had stormed that morning and due to the low clouds When we got to the top it was too foggy to see a thing and when we got half way down the sun came out . then finally about a year later I went again and It poured down rain from the start the river by the lower parking lot was flooded and gushing over the driveways that crossed it. on the way up every raveen and creek was gushing down the mountain one after another along the trail. And deja vu again it was  to foggy to see a thing at the top and  on the way down the sun came out.
In all it was an amazing climb and I hope one day it will be the perfect day when I go.

By: Robert Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, March 10, 2010
I've been up on Old Rag plenty of times at this point (over thirty) and this was the first time I've seen this much snow still on the trails. Be sure to have boots with extremely good traction that are well-waterproofed as well as long pants to protect your shins when you sink into the snow (that may have been more my problem though, I was the heaviest person I saw on the mountain by a good eighty pounds that day). The Ridge Trail is an easier hike up than I would surmise the Saddle Trail to be due to the length of moderate snow still on the Saddle Trail, but I went back down the Saddle Trail as there were a few areas of water and ice on the Ridge Trail which I didn't really want to bother with again on the way back down. The upside of the Ridge Trail is that the pinch point is almost completely filled with snow, so you can just gingerly walk up through it instead of climbing through it sideways. I'm going to give it another few weeks (maybe right before the upper lot closes) before I wander up there again.

By: HikewithJesus.com Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, March 06, 2010
This is my 6th hike of Old Rag in 2010. I would still recommend bringing micro-spikes with you on this hike until all the snow is gone. With the wet slushy snow in some areas yesterday you can't get any leverage to push off which puts strain on your knees. There are also many icy or semi-frozen patches on the trail as well as many opportunities to put your foot through 2 feet of snow just off the padded trail so gaiters are a smart choice as well.

Many thanks to the snowshoers who paved the original path after the 3 feet of snow blizzard asI saw their tracks 3 hikes ago. In the future I would recommend snowshoes after a large snow fall and then crapons or spikes after that.

There is also a good bit of mud on the clear areas of the fire trail.

Unfortunately the upper parking area will be closed forever at the end of this month adding .9 miles to the hike each way if the loop is done so don't expect the shorter hike in the future.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, February 28, 2010
I chose to hike Old Rag today as part of my early training and preparation for the AT later this Spring.  I started the hike from the lower parking lot around 1215 PM and chose to hike counterclockwise, up the fire road first.   The snow on the road was packed for the most part making the long ascent up a little easier.  Once on the trail heading towards Old Rag shelter the path became a little more difficult as the base of snow higher up was easily 18" to 24" deep.  I saw several people today hiking in tennis shoes and shorts!  The temperature on top of Old Rag was a cool 28 degrees when I passed over, and the snow flurries picked up the pace as the wind blew even harder on top.  Coming off the summit down the Scramble was very difficult.  Had I not had treking poles I would fallen and slipped through the tight passes.  Once off the rocks and down the Ridge Trail is was OK all the way back to the parking lot.  I completed the hike today in 4 hrs and 30 mins.  I will continue to do my AT training on Old Rag but I won't return until more snow and ice thaw.  BE PREPARED if you go.  Good boots, treking poles, warm clothes, gloves and, of course water.  Enjoy and be safe.

By: Bob Look Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, January 31, 2010
The NPS has posted signs on Old Rag starting in mid-April 2010 the upper parking lot will be closed to the public.  Once the upper lot is closed all hikers will need to park at the lot near the Old Rag Contact station.

By: HikewithJesus.com Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, January 30, 2010
I've hiked this trail 8-9 times already. Make sure you have ice traction devices for your boots. We hiked it in the snow storm and it was quite a challenge! We also used hiking poles, it only took us 5hr 45 min from start to finish!

We went up and down the fire road side. It is a good idea to leave your pack at the Bird's Nest shelter before heading to the summit to save weight.

By: L&J Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, January 15, 2010
This was my first real hike. We chose Old Rag for the view and it was well worth it! We started at the lower lot and took the trail backwards, taking the fire rd first. There was a considerable amount of snow and ice on the upper part of the trail. Since we started in the opposite direction of most, we ended up descending the rock scramble which made it a little tricky to begin with but the fact that it was very slippery from the snow and ice made it especially hard for me. Some parts were quite treacherous but we made it down to the other side and it was very exciting.  Make sure you wear proper hiking shoes as I did not and my feet were soaking wet for more than half the hike. I also had a hiking stick which made things easier when approaching deep snow. All in all, we saw some amazing views that words can't even describe, which to me, made it completely worth it in the end!

By: Sam w/o Thunder Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, January 10, 2010
I hiked up from the end of 600, I think its called Berry Hollow.  Still ice and snow, so I used some short spikes most of the way.  There wasn't much wind and I think the cold temperature kept the crowds away.  I saw about a dozen people during my 6 hour loop.  Great views and a really fun hike.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, January 01, 2010

HAVE FUN BUT BE SAFE

I saw many folks doing the hike without any mciro ice traction assistence on their feet.  So at least this weekend it can be done in just regular footware. 

There is lots of bare rock and the ice and snow is very thin so crampons would be a hinderance.   YakTrax, microspikes, stabilizers are perfect.  Having the right equipment will mean that your hike will be far more pleasurable, faster and safer.   

The snow was well beaten down so there was no need to break trail or worry about post holing.   Most of the trail snow had the consistency of a snow cone but some had already melted and refrozen into ice.

Many parts of the fire roads could still be skied but the snow is very icy.  There was probably a window of several days after the big snow when the skiing on the fire roads was wonderful.

Keep in mind this is backcountry.   If someone slips and becomes non-ambulatory (injuries happen here even in the summer) you are looking at MANY! hours until first responders arrive.   Your group should be prepared to self-rescue or keep a non-ambulatory victim warm for 6 to 12 hours even during clear weather.  Expect this timeframe to extend for more than a day in the middle of an intense snow or ice storm.    Some cell phones work high on the mountain but  none work low on the mountain. There is an emergency phone on the Old Rag fee station.    If you are solo on the mountain make sure their is someone that knows to call for help if you do not return when you should.   

I do a lot of patrols on Old Rag for the PATC Trail Patrol or the Old Rag Mountain Stewards and I post a blog entry for each of my patrols.   The blog is located at:  http://oldragpatrolsbyrsl-blook.blogspot.com/ .   Since I use it as an extension of my public outreach activities for my volunteer activities with (NPS, ORMS, PATC TP)  it is a little preachy.   It contains lots of pictures and lots of information and links about all kinds of Old Rag, hiking, and climbing things.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, December 30, 2009
Hiked with my daughter, her boy friend and two of my sons.  Trail was quite strenuous, very snowy and icy but we had a blast. The rock scramble was a bit icy in several places. It was our first time, my daughter and her boy friends second.  We will return in the spring when the ice and snow are gone and combine it with a via feratta trip in wva.

By: skitch-locally Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, December 29, 2009
See this  (www.shenandoahmountainguides.blogspot.com) The images say it all.. tough place, as in DEADLY, when iced over, and you are not prepared.

By: JBK Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, December 28, 2009
me too.  would like to hike on thurs / NYE.  any trail reports out there?

By: Teresa Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, December 27, 2009
The trails were ok near the bottom... approaching the top they were still covered in ice & snow, making the rocks a challenge. Advice to wait until the snow melts a little bit more.

HikingUpward Note: A few people were waiting for this trail report. This review was from Sunday but it looks like there will be another chance of freezing rain/snow on 12/31. Be sure to check the Sperryville weather link on the Old Rag hike page.)

By: Leo Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, December 22, 2009
Has anyone been on this trial since the snow on Saturday?  What is the snow/ice situation?

I'm thinking of hiking it on December 27 if it's not totally impossible.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, November 19, 2009
I have hiked Old Rag Mountain many times, but this time around, it was under the most challenging circumstances. It was my birthday and I wanted to challenge myself by completing the hike in less than 4 hours.

It was cold and raining the entire time I was out there, but I finished the hike in 3 hours. It was an amazing experience and the rain made it all that more challenging. The rocks were super slippery and very hard to master. It was so muddy, water everywhere. As for solitude, yes, best hike ever, there was not another single person out there.

I wonder why?

By: Ann Beale Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, November 08, 2009
This was my third time doing this hike and my first time taking my 11 year old daughter. I love this hike and it is one of my favorites. My daughter is an experienced hiker otherwise I would not have taken her. She liked it too but said that the rock scramble was scary. We had someone with us who was strong enough to lift her over the difficult spots and that was very helpful. It was a perfect beautiful day so it brought out more people than I have ever seen on the trail before. My only complaint was there was a line of about 50 people or more waiting to go through a difficult spot on the scramble. I wish people would come out a little more prepared and knowledgeable about what to expect. It is a long and strenuous hike and you must be able to lift your own body weight. IF you are not experienced then go with someone who is and do a little research before you go. If you like to hike and like a challenge this one is for you.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, November 08, 2009

Hiked this with my 12-yr old son and my sister-in-law.  This was the first time for all of us.  We made good time going up and extensive research had prepared me as to what to expect, including the rock scrambles.  The only thing I would add to all the other reviews is that you have to be creative when going through the rocks.  I think size and body type may determine which way works best for you.  It is a very difficult hike, so please be prepared, good shoes are a must, and bring plenty of water.

Plan on getting there early to avoid the crowds at the rocks.  We were on the trail by 8:30 and did not have to wait in any lines.


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, November 01, 2009
The following links take you directly to a great Hiking Old Rag Mountain video made by Shenandoah National Park:
High Quality 23 MBytes
http://ns.www.nps.gov.edgesuite.net/featurecontent/shen/website_movies/OldRagPodcast_web.mov        
Low Quality 2.3 MBytes (dial up users)
http://ns.www.nps.gov.edgesuite.net/featurecontent/shen/website_movies/OldRagPodcast_DialUp.3gp

By: Michael & Carol A Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, October 18, 2009
This was the first backpacking trip for my wife and I.  We were with my cousin Lisa and her husband Mike, both are experienced hikers.  This was Mike's 5 trip to Old Rag and Lisa's 3rd.  We started at 7:30 am and were able to park in the upper lot.  Despite our reservations, we chose to take the main trail and tackle to rock scramble.  The temperature was in the upper 30's with a stiff wind.  The mountain was fogged in till after lunch.  There was snow on the mountain when we reached the top.  The hike was challenging but we made it.  The most fun was on the rock scamble which would have been difficult enough in normal weather conditions, but was even more challenging with the wind and snow.  There were parts where we had to help each other and pass our packs along but we took our time and made it without incident.  As first time hikers it was an incredible first hike, with lots of memories and we look forward to doing the hike again next year.  Tips - have good conditioning (especially in your legs), having flexability in your legs is helpful to get over the rocks, and dress for conditions.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, October 10, 2009
Fantastic hike! Two person team of a rock climbing instructor & a Marathon runner, both of us in excellent shape and we tore through Old Rag in about 4.5 hours.

Arrived at lower parking lot and started hiking around 8:30-45ish. We came across other hikers frequently. All were friendly and helpful. Except of the bottleneck point, people were not a problem. We circumvented the bottleneck with some creative rock climbing (I do NOT recommend this!).

Enjoyable boulder hoping and our exploratory nature gave us access to some secluded and epic vistas! During the jog/run down hill, we came across people snapping pictures of a snake. Triangle head, so I identified it as venomous and later verified it to be a immature Timber Rattlesnake. Due to cold temperatures it was very slow, so we used a long stick to gently lift it off the trail and calmly warned others to be kind and avoid it. (Respect nature)

Note: Pace yourself and travel with light weight items. This hike is difficult for many people but not impossible. Avoid if you have certain medical conditions: (Heart, lungs, blood pressure, joint or bone issues, fairly over-weight, pregnant etc.) Also, not a good idea for elderly or small children.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, October 03, 2009
We hiked Old Rag on a Saturday morning. We arrived at 0645 and there were only 2 spots left at the upper parking area, however there were plenty of spaces on the lower parking area.  We started the hike at approx 0715 and reached the summit at 1010. The rock scramble was our favorite portion of the hike because it was both mentally and physically challanging. That part became challanging for us especially because we had backpacks.  Next time we do this hike, we'll only bring our nalgenes of water and a couple cliff bars in our pockets.   The views from the rocks were amazing on such a clear day. We passed or were passed by plenty f people on the trail. There was a good group of people at the summit but that didnt take away from how amazing it was!  We saw two snakes on the downhill section a black snake and a milk snake (which made for some pretty cool pics). I suggest starting with the hardest route to the summit first (rock scramble), it was much easier going downhill on the fireroads.  Its a pretty tiring route either way but you definitely dont want to be tired and attempting the rock scramble.  Our total trip was seven hours but we stopped a lot for pictures (there are PLENTY of picture ops).  This was an incredible hike!!!!

By: Adi Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, September 27, 2009
This is the best hike in the Washington DC area.
The rock scramble is fun and challenging and has really awesome views. It requires some physical strength to complete this 8 mi hike (10 mi...if you park in the second parking lot ). We started at 12.30 pm and finished it at 6 PM.
I would like to return to this hike definitely.

By: Hikermom Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, September 20, 2009

This is a great hike.  I would definitely do it again.

We got to the trail head at 7:50 but the upper lot was already full :(

It's really kind of annoying to have to park a mile away, but it's not a bad walk.  Left the lower parking lot at 8:10 and got back to the upper lot at 8:25.  Got to the top by 10:30, with various stops at the overlook.  It was kind of cloudy, foggy today, so there weren't perfect views, but it was nice.  Also, surprisingly few people.  The scrambling was GREAT!  Definitely not your garden variety Virginia hike.  It gave this one lots of personality and some interesting twists.  It was beautiful and fun.

We had "brunch" at the top for about an hour, and then headed down the backside.  Frankly, that was a little boring.  Those fire roads are long and tedious.  And then, of course, had to hike the extra mile down to the lower parking lot.

Still.  It was totally worth it.  If I do it again, I will do the scramble back down and skip the fire roads.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, September 07, 2009
My husband and I were concerned with attempting this hike on Labor Day, but arrived at the smaller parking lot around 8am. *Just* found a spot in it... Got on the trail about 8:25 (thanks to our 1 year old!) and were pleasantly surprised at the switchback section. We had previously done this hike backwards (going up the back first and then doing the fire road last) and recalled the switchbacks being worse than they were. We passed about 3 groups of people (ranging from 4 to about 8) by the second "rock scramble" section. The rocky sections were a bit slick in some areas thanks to the mountain being socked-in by a cloud and an earlier rain, but everything was safe and completely passable. Unfortunately, with the surrounding cloud, there was absolutely no view at any point along the trail, but I had never hiked in such a fog --so it was a really neat experience for me. We were really surprised at the lack of people on the trail (we passed two or three more couples on the fire road) but, when we were leaving the parking lot after completing our hike in 4 hours, found that the larger, rented parking lot was completely full.

And as for previous posts about dogs on the mountain...my husband and I had done a hike in the spring of 2008 that was off-trail but used the first mile of the fire road. We were accompanied during our entire 6 mile hike by one of these dogs. I can't remember his name (Sp- something) but his owners are in one of the houses near the foot of the mountain. He is very friendly, was a great guide, and has a tag that says to not worry about his location or owners. "I know this mountain better than you," is basically what part of the tag said. But super friendly dog, and we saw him accompanying another group of hikers today, again, along the fire road. I have not seen other dogs on this trail before and I believe they aren't allowed.

By: Ashley Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, September 06, 2009
This was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen! I have never really been hiking before so this was a first for me... I would definatly go again!!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, September 05, 2009
Absolutely awesome -- I loved every step of this beautiful hike.  I'm going back very soon with my second son and younger daughter.  I'm making this a family tradition to hike Old Rag each year before school starts.

By: Christopher McCrae Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, September 04, 2009

Although extremley exhausted by nights end, the hike itself was exciting and rewarding. The best part about the entire hike was that I completed it with my 11 yr old son as part of a youth to manhood series we are participating in with our church Church of the Messiah, Fredericksburg, VA. It was inspiring and definately one of the toughest things i ever attempted and I am proud to say, completed. Most of all, I am extremely happy my son and i did it together.

 

Chris McCrae

CJ1775@aol.com


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, August 25, 2009
Awesome hike! After going up this mountain previously with just one or two other people, I wanted to take a whole group (8 people) on this trip. Everyone on the group had a great time, and negotiating the rock scramble was made easier with so many people. The views are spectacular, and getting to the summit after a long trip up was very rewarding. The trip down the other side was kind of tedious but that's to be expected after working your way up. Definitely one of my favorite hikes!

By: Sgt Helgran Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, August 23, 2009
This hike was awesome!

The first 3 or so miles that lead to the rock scrambles were a very worn beaten path trail that you could probably have ridden a bike up. For this reason, the hike gets 4 stars.

The scrambles were excellent, with plenty of alternate routes to increase the challenge. Near the top, we climbed through some caves that proved to reach peaks that I'm certain most people do not ever see. Very challenging to take the alternate routes, but the painted path was reasonable and fun.

The hike back down the other side (if you take the circuit instead of turning around the way you came) was like the first one. Boring beaten trail that leads to a fire road. The road is just a gravel road that you're on about 2 miles. I generally prefer less worn trails where I sometimes have to clear my own way, cross rivers/creeks, and that sort of thing. The rock scrambles more than made up for it though, which is why this hike gets 4 stars. If you're up for a rock climb challenge, this is the one.

Happy trails!
Sgt Helgran

By: HikingGem Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, August 23, 2009
I'm just now getting around to review this hike, but wow was it a good one.  I loved the challenge, and figuring the way through the scrambles was fun. Much of the beginning was zigging and zagging up hill. That part wasn't much fun at all, but the scrambles and the views make this worth the while. This was the first hike I ever completed it, and I would suggest it for beginners. I hope to hike Old rag mountain again someday.

If you are a beginner in you live in the DC/Maryland/NorthernVA area I would suggest Difficult run. It is ideal for an introduction hike. 

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, August 20, 2009
We have a small group ready to hike this in a couple weeks. About the dog situation...

Is it unreasonable to think if I brought my dog (very fit, young whippet mix) that she would make it? Are dogs allowed on the trail? I obviously dont want to risk endangering my dog if it's going to be too much. I hiked the 10mi waterfall loop a month ago and feel that the dog could have made it on that one. This one seems like more climbing though, and again, i dont want to take an unnecessary risk.

Suggestions?

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, August 20, 2009
Thank you to everyone that clarified about the dog situation. I was under the impression originally that dogs were generally accepted through the park, and was un-aware until one of your replies let me know that they are restricted to certain trails.

Thanks again for the advice!

On that note, we're hiking Old Rag Sunday morning. If anyone is interested and wants to join us, right now our group is only 4. Anyone that wants to meet up with us, feel free to shoot me an email- we welcome the company!

Thanks again!
Sgt Helgran

By: The Closeau Brothers Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, August 15, 2009
This was our second time doing this one and we had a great time!  The first time we hiked Old Rag, we went "backwards" starting up the fire trail, doing the rock scrambles and then coming back down the switchbacks.  This time we did the opposite.  If you do the latter, meaning that you come down the fire trail at the end, prepare for a long walk after you've just hiked up and down a mountain!  Also we encountered two dogs at the top before the rock scrambles.  They were tagged and looked like they belonged to somebody.  We gave them water and were told that they belonged to someone that lives at the bottom of the trail.  If you go, ask the park rangers what the actual deal is with those dogs.  Enjoy!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, August 15, 2009

My girlfriend and I are doing four hikes in four days here and we thought that we would tackle Old Rag first.  We are both 44 years old and take care of ourselves physically.  We parked at the trailhead lot, arriving at 6:30 am to find four other cars already in the lot. (we would've been there sooner if google maps didn't take us to the Berry Hollow trail...we ended up getting directions from a local guy on his way out to hunt).  If we return, I'll definitely get out early again...adding an extra two miles to the hike going back and forth to the other parking lot isn't really appealing.  The hike took us a total of six hours with numerous stops for photos, rest, and a quick, preventative maintenance, potential blister issue.  We spent about 30 minutes at the peak.  I went through 2 liters of water on the trek vs. her 1.5.  The rock climbs were pretty strenous at times, but we were having so much fun that we didn't notice until later that evening the toll it took.  There were definitely several spots where I had to pull her up along this stretch...you should bring a friend along for help if you feel that you lack upper body strength.  (for those thinking about bringing dogs along, please don't...there are parts of the trail that are way too dangerous for them)

Fortunately, we didn't see any of the local dogs...(I want to see deer and bear...not somebody's scroungy looking mutt).  About a hundred yards into the trail we did hear a bunch of crashing in the brush off to our right.  A very large deer leapt right across the trail about ten feet in front of us and into the brush on the other side.  I never did see what spooked it....I'm guessing it wasn't us or it would've headed in the other direction.

Although we missed the brunt of it, I can see how this trail gets real crowded.  Several groups showed up while we were at the summit.  One idiot was just letting his kids (probably 7-11 years old) run and chase each other up there, at times coming precariously close to the edge.  I don't enjoy parenting other people's kids, but we did at least convince the seven year old to slow down and tie his shoelaces.  Some adults never cease to amaze me with their lack of common sense. (anyway, I digress....)  The views are beautiful up here but it isn't the place for solitude.  We did enjoy some though, heading out so early.   Heading off to a much easier, allowing the body to recover, Stony Man Trail tomorrow.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, August 15, 2009
Prior to beginning this hike, the only experiences I had were hiking on State Park trails in Michigan, which were all marked with nice trail posts to mark the way and bulletin boards every so often. You're never more than a mile from civilization, an outhouse, a drinking source, etc. And you have cellphone reception should anything happen.  I thought the hike of Old Rag would be very similar, but just a little more difficult. I had a rude awakening. Let's just say that I was very thankful that I run three miles every other day at the gym. My fiancé came along as well, and he is not so much into exercising and running, so he struggled with the hike quite a bit more than others.

We were such newbies on this trail. First, the trail isn't marked like a State Park trail. It's a series of blue spray paint lines that you have to look for once you get to the rock scramble, which can sometimes be a challenge in itself.

It was August, so the temperatures climbed up into the mid-eighties with humidity about the middle of our hike. We kept thinking we were at the top, but alas, no such luck. People along the way were extremely friendly, and when we asked how much farther we had to go, they would say, "oh, not too far to the summit!"  There was actually one extremely helpful and nice couple our age that stopped to help us when we couldn't figure out how to proceed in the rock scramble. There were markings, and the scramble required us to push with our feet off one rock and reach for a hand hole that we didn't see until they pointed it out. The girl offered to hold my bag for me, and the guy helped push us off. I'm not quite sure how I would have maneuvered that without them, so if you happen to be reading this, thanks again!

I am 5'4", so some of the hike in terms of grabbing and pulling myself up onto things and pushing off of other rocks in the rock scramble, were a little more challenging to me than my 6' tall fiancé. I definitely overcame some fears of the 12 foot deep crevices and heights that day. We packed six bottles of frozen water, but the water wasn't thawing quick enough and even with six bottles, this wasn't enough for the hike on a hot, humid day.  We deifnitely had some arguments about water conservation that day! We thought one of the shelters would have water, so we rushed to get to one of them. No such luck. It's just a picnic-type shelter. No water or bathrooms.

Overall, though, it was a great experience. Even my fiancé who was cursing the hike and me for taking him on the hike the entire time, now wants to go back. The views are something you won't get elsewhere, making the climb well worth it. In retrospect, it wasn't as hard as we played it out to be in our minds while we were hiking. We didn't die from dehydration stranded in a crevice at nightfall with no human contact.and bears roaming about.  It was an adventure, and one of things that I think everyone should try in their lifetime. The hike really pushes you. Even with me being fairly active in the gym, I still felt pain throughout my body the next day. It's a full body workout.  We'll definitely be back, but probably during much cooler weather and with more water!

Oh, and p.s., there are dogs up on top of the rocks. I am so glad I read these reviews, because I probably would have had a heart attack up there had I not. I happened to peak around the corner into one of the crevices, and there was a furry tail pointing back at me.

By: Stephanie Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, August 13, 2009
Hi Sgt. Helgran! I would absolutely not bring a dog on this hike. Not only are they not allowed (and there are park rangers at the entrance) but they would not be able to make it. It's not just light rock climbing, you have to pull yourself over boulders as tall as an average woman, scramble through tight spots, and balance on two boulders as you cross over a crevice. I have a whippet mix too (aren't they so much fun?), I would suggest hiking the White Oak Canyon/Cedar Run loop hike if you want to bring her. It is a little over 8 miles as well, and if you park at the bottom (the directions for the loop hike on hikingupward start at the bottom of the hike) it is close to Old Rag so you wouldn't be adding a lot of distance to your drive. That hike is a great one for dogs because there is a lot of water to splash around in, and there are some rocks that they can jump around on at the bottom of the falls. Whichever one you do, have fun!

By: Bob Look Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, August 09, 2009

Pets are not allowed on the Ridge Trail or on the Saddle Trail above Old Rag Shelter.  For more info check out:

http://www.nps.gov/shen/planyourvisit/pets.htm

Mt Robertson is an alternative mountain hike in the area.

By: Mainer Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, August 07, 2009
Great Hike! A challenge up top, but definitely do-able for most who have hiked before. I agreed about the dogs, we saw them on the way up (one of them walked with us from the bottom up) and they seemed hot, but fine. What amazing views! Also, it says on the trail head to expect 7 hours to do the full loop. My boyfriend and I did it in under 5, including a 30 minute lunch break at the top and some impromtu stops for pictures. I recommend this one for sure!

By: Buck Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, August 02, 2009
I live here, and so do the dogs you're worried about. They get up and down just fine... and are pretty durn smart as well.. go up there for the cool shade and lots of free food from folks like you.. thank you!.. I go up there a lot to... and you probably wouldn't think I'd get there neither.. no fancy shoes or campbells hump or anything.
Don't worry about them dogs none... they definitely are not like people.. much smarter and fitter.  

By: 3rd time around Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, August 01, 2009
This was my third time hiking Old Rag with my husband (we are both 28 y/o).  We brought my brother and his wife this time around since we are heading out west in a few week and wanted to get a good hike in before the trip.  It was a hot and humid day reaching into the low 90s.  We started out around 9:15am.  As we reached the beginning of the bulk of the rock scramble we came across a dog, mid-sized with matted fur around its neck where an obvious collar had been.  He seemed in decent though he was panting and had no water.  We were very concerned to see him up there as we had already be through some of the scramble and wondered how he would have gotten up there if it weren't for human intervention.  We called to a few hikers ahead of us wonder if they had seen the dog.  They were on a lower level of the scramble and said there were 2 more by them and both in very bad shape.  Nothing prepared me for turning the corner to see both these dog, lying lifeless under the shade of a rock in very bad condition.  They wouldn't take water or food from us and were barely breathing, one with a bad neck wound.  We were so upset, we didn't have a cell phone signal and were hours away from the ranger station.  I have a hard time believing these dog would have gotten there on their own, especiall since at least one d worn a collar not too long ago.  2 of these dogs were dying and there was no way they were going to make it as it would take hours for the rangers to get help, enough people and medical supplies to bring the dogs down and to a vet.  It was one of the most horrible sights I have ever seen and truely soured our hike and possible future hikes at Old Rag.  We got to the parking lot and ranger station but it was closed.  If anyone else was on the trail or knows anything more about the dogs please let us know.  We were so upset and helpless.

By: Matt Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, August 01, 2009
3rd time around -- There are a number of local dogs who like to follow people up the mountain and/or go up on their own, often resting with alarming unresponsiveness in various improbable spots along the scramble. You hear a lot of conversation with Old Rag regulars and on forums like this one. Did one of them have Holstein like fur?  Keep in mind that the human trail up the mountain is but one of countless ways up Animals generally don't follow our trail and don't have to climb up the Chute to appear around the summit.  They were probably OK, but it's good of you to be concerned. If ever in doubt just remember that dogs sweat through their paws, so if they won't drink wetting their paws down will help them regulate their body temperature.  I've often thought how cool it would be to attach a movie camera to the Old Rag local dogs and see how they get up the mountain -- they end up in some pretty crazy spots!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, July 24, 2009
This was our first time up to Old Rag.  We loved it!  The views were excellent and the rock scramble at the top adventuresome. We pretty much had the trail to ourselves.  We did the entire clockwise circuit hiking back down the fire trail road but if I had to do it again, I would reach the summit of Old Rag and then back track the way we came so we could do all the excellent rock scramble again.  I'm sure this idea only works with the light hiking traffic that we faced as we would be going “upstream” against many hikers on a busy day. I look forward to taking this hike again in the fall.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, July 13, 2009
We did it!! Sylvia is 53 and I am 60. We work out daily at ACAC in Charlottesville Va. and thought this hike would be a good test of our conditioning. I had hiked it once before and wanted to share this experience with Sylvia. It was an amazing day and we completed the hike in 6 hours. We were both wringing wet and glad we had started at 7:30a.m. for the temperature rose into the high eighties by noon. The trail was empty except for a gentleman from Pa. who we crossed paths with only twice. The views are spectacular and the climbing rugged. We carried plenty of food and water and did not wish for more. We came down the back side, 4.5mi., to the parking area and found the decent tiring and painful to the knees. Sylvia enjoyed the scrambles the best and we are planning a return visit this fall. It was a great day and we recommend the hike highly.

By: Bob Look Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, July 12, 2009

Always a great hike which will have its parking improved in the  future.   SNP recently released its future plans for parking at Old Rag.   For more info see the parking plan entry on my Old Rag Patrols blog.

http://oldragpatrolsbyrsl-blook.blogspot.com/

No Pets.  Watch for ticks.  Take plenty of water.  Have fun.

By: Tomcat Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, July 08, 2009
Today I hiked Old Rag with my 4 year old son and my 16 year old cousin.  It is a great hike my son loved the rock scramble.  I am very proud of my son he made it all the way up with no problems, only with a little help on the scramble.  It was a beautiful day and not too hot.   This is by far the best hike I have ever been on.

By: Amanda Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, July 04, 2009
We decided to do this hike on the 4th of July!! We arrived fairly early (8:00am) and missed the majority of the crowds. We are a pretty active family and found this hike both strenuous and beautiful. We also hiked with our 2 daughters, who are 9 and 7. They did GREAT and we were surprised that they barely complained! The rock scramble was their favorite part... as both of them love the challenge of figuring out which way to climb and "scramble" around the rocks. It took us a little under 5 1/2 hours to do this hike. I would highly recommend this hike!! It is difficult, but what an accomplishment.. especially for our daughters!!

By: Michael Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, July 03, 2009
My wife and I recently discovered hiking. We're both active people who love the outdoors, but tend to have different interests (cycling versus running, etc.). So when I mentioned to a coworker that we'd tried some rock climbing out at Carderock recently and really liked it, he recommended that we try the Old Rag Mountain hike. I'd been wanting to take my son on a day hike to the Appalachian Trail anyway, so I thought it would be a good opportunity to scout out the area.

The hike was everything I'd heard about and more. We're in our early 40's, and our son is 10. Although there were a couple of spots in the boulder scramble where he needed a helping hand, he made it through with no problems.  We took our time so that we didn't burn him out, and took a few detours to check out the views.  We still finished the circuit in just under 6 hours.

The trail itself is quite lovely. It's heavily wooded and shady for most of the hike, but gets nicely exposed near the summit. There's a wonderful stream flowing along Weakley Hollow Fire Road that's nice to stop and look at too.

The only negative about the hike at all were the other hikers. Most were very courteous, but on several occasions we passed or were passed by a group of people who talked non-stop. The worst is when you're in the middle of the switchbacks and you have one group talking on the switchback above you and one talking on the switchback below.  We brought sunscreen and bug repellent - but halfway through the Ridge Trail, I was wishing we'd brought a giant can of SHUT THE #&*$@ UP!  to use on our fellow hikers

Bring: Sunscreen, bug spray, 2 liters of water per person (minimum), good hiking boots/shoes (some of the boulders can be slippery), and a camera.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, July 03, 2009
Old Rag is definitely one of the best hikes near the DC metro area.  Before Friday I had already done the hike twice this season, but decided to make it even more interesting by hiking it twice in one day (6hrs 5mins).  I knew there would be crowds on the top 1/4 of the mountain but most of the people were nice.  I did get stuck behind one group that would not shut up about their political views which happened to be the polar opposite of my own.  There are a couple rock scrambles that novice hikers should be aware of and  for the second time in a row I was one of the few people I talked to who missed seeing one of the many bears in the area.  I have not heard of anyone having problems with the bears, but novice hikers should be aware that they are present.  The fire road on the decent is rather boring.  Descending the same route as the ascent would be more enjoyable, but there are usually too many people ascending.  Jogging the fire road is always an option!  Each time I go I manage to run across people who did not bring enough water as well.  I would take at least 2 liters per person to be on the safe side. 

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, June 22, 2009
I hiked this mountain with my 28 year old daughter and her friend, to prove that I could still do this kind of thing with her since turning 60.  I could do it but only with a lot of help from her... pushing and pulling me through the rock scrambles.  It was a very hard and challenging hike/CLIMB.  It took us 6 hours.  For a fairly in-shape woman, this was very difficult and I wouldn't do it again.  Beware.  If you aren't young and in shape, the length and difficulty are not fun.  I survived it and enjoyed the sense of accomplishmentand but wanted to accurately describe the challenge.  Loved hiking with my daugher.

By: Mark Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, June 21, 2009
As just about everyone else has said, Old Rag is a great hike. It has some challenging parts, but each one is do-able given a little thought and attention. Although I had hiked it occasionally before (once with my wife, once with my mother-in-law), I have started hiking it with my kids yearly. We started this tradition last year, when my son was five and my daughter was eight. They both did fine last year and this year, although it took us a *long* time :-) to get all the way around. If you are used to hikes that are just walks in the woods, you may find Old Rag strenuous. If you are more used to serious mountain hiking, you will find it pleasantly invigorating. Bring plenty of water (2 liters per person or so), start early to avoid the crowds if you can, and have some food with you (such as a nice picnic lunch to eat at the summit). Take out *everything* you bring in, as with the crowds Old Rag sees, a little trash here and a little trash there adds up. If you are wondering if you are up to it, my mother-in-law hiked it with me in 2002 when she was 62 [my wife passed then because she was 6 months pregnant], and she just hiked it again with my family in 2009 at age 69, with a 9-month old hip replacement. Try it, you will like it!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, June 20, 2009
DON'T BRING YOUR DOG!  I had a tiny chihuahua I was carrying with me the day we planned on doing the hike and one of the trail volunteers refused to let us go the mountain with him.  The follwed us to the upper parking lot to insure we didn't go up despite the lame excuse of birds carrying off our dog and that we couldn't handle the rock scamble at the top I have done previously.  Instead they sent us on a hike (Robertson) up the fire road which turned into a long, grueling, interminable incline to a crappy view at the top.  I can say that it almost ruined the day and disappointed the 3 other people who came with us to hike Old Rag for the first time.

By: Steven Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, June 16, 2009
What a great hike! I hiked in the morning and it was so foggy so I was robbed of the views :( However, I had a great time. The scramble was excellent and a deer literally walked within ten feet of me. I didn't know these Shanandoah deer were so docile. Trail was pretty empty and I only saw four other parties during the hike (It was on a Tues.)

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, June 13, 2009

What a rush!!!  Jen and I couldn't stop saying "WOW"!  The hike was everything that we had read and heard about.  The 8+ mile trip tested our endurance and strength.  We traveled the loop clockwise with the vertical trail being steep and long.  Once we got to the rock scramble, our leg pains went away.  The hike was so worth the results.  The scramble provided fantastic views and memorable scenery that we will take with us.  The hike down the other side seemed long but refreshing.  We took the saddle trail down and saw numerous deer with their young. Totally worth the trip from Akron, Ohio


By: Bill and Kristina Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, June 13, 2009
It was a damp morning, overcast skies, ten of us met at parking lot 2. Team Sentara! Lead by our guide and great fitness trainer, Tom! (Thanks Tom, we all loved every step of the hike, when is the next trip?)

What better way to start off hiking, I'm only hoping that there are other hikes that can equal this. It was fantastic.

The initial slope was a great warm up, The switchback sections were a good cardio workout, but the rock scamble has to be seen to be understood, a good pair of hiking boots are worth every penny, the rocks can be a bit slick from the mud from those who came before you, so traction given from good boots is an advantage,  but we had a few in fitness shoes and they made it up fine. After we made it to the top, I was just pumped, I wanted to do it again (after a hot tub and a week off)

On the back side, we came across a doe and fawn, great photo op. with mom allowing her fawn to feed.

One tip for those who want to hike Old Rag, Pack light, only take what you need, a light camera is worth it. That was my last hike lugging my big DSLR. TAKE PICTURES< TAKE PICTURES, TAKE PICTURES.

I drained a 100oz camelback, with a quart of backup to spare, I'm happy that we didnt have full sun, a hot day would have been a little differment.

Total time, with stops for photo ops, lunch, and breaks: 6 Hours, starting and finishing at lot #2. Workout stats: 4200 calories, (pusing 225 lbs up hill is hard work, even at 6'1") Fitness level: very active, Age 45.

We picked up our " I made it to the top of Old Rag" tee-shirts at a place on Rt 211, about 1.6 miles west of Main street (Rt. 522) is Sperryville.

We are looking forward to doing this hike again, in the fall, the colors will be amazing, I'm sure.


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, June 08, 2009
i have been on the hike a few times before and it never gets "old". when i went i brought a friend that has never really done gone hiking before and she fell in love with it. the  scenery and the workout are all worth the hike. if you ever have the chance to go it is highly recomended by a united states marine to go for it.

By: Tim Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, June 03, 2009
I am 60 and just started hiking last year.  Old Rag is an outstanding experience.  We made it all the way to the summit and the scramble was indeed challenging.  The physical challenge was great and then we were rewarded with the unbelievable views.  I look forward to seeing Old Rag again.  I would agree with other comments that this is not a beginner's hike.  It is indeed challenging not only in length but climbing ability.  Well worth the effort.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, June 01, 2009
WOW!  What a wonderful walk.  Used to walking in the UK, this was something with a bit of a difference.  A lucky park at the top park excluded the boring lower part of the walk, so straight into the wooded part - gently climbing to the rock scramble.  This was just pure fun until we reached that niggle - you'll know what I mean if you know the walk!  Fell and twisted a knee there, but that didn't spoil what has to be the most memorable walk. Weather perfect with fabulous views throughout. Don't miss it if you have the chance.

By: GrouseK9 Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, May 31, 2009
Finished a climb of Old Rag with my 8 year old son today. We arrived at 6:55am and scored a coveted weekend parking spot at the Trail Head. We climbed our standard pace of 55 minutes on & 5 minute break. What a blast. Ben had an awesome time. I had to boost him up a few spots. We only lost the blue-blazes once for a few meters. The weather cleared and was wonderful. He told riddles & jokes most of the way up. We brought too much water with us, but the pizza we took hit the spot at the top. We went around the circuit clockwise and did most of our scrambling on the way up. He had great fun imagining faces in the granite. We saw a ton of Rufous Sided Towhees and even a Raven at the top. On the way up we leap-frogged 3 folks who seemed ill prepared for the scrambling. If you do this, make sure you bring plenty of water and are reasonably fit! An 8 year old can do it, but if you have been a couch potato for the last decade, you should be able to do a 5K run first.

By: Auntie E Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, May 31, 2009
What an extraordinary day!  A friend and I hit the trail at 7:45 a.m.  I hurt my knee just before reaching the summit.  Thank goodness for the extra t-shirt I had stuffed in my backpack.  I tied it around my knee to stabilize it, and continued with the hike as best I could.  My friend found a walking stick for me in the woods, and we made our way down the mountain.  It took us 5 hours to reach the parking lot, but nearly everyone that passed us inquired about my injury and either offered assistance or wished me well.  I was greatly impressed with everyone's kindness. One girl offered me her phone that surprisingly worked on the mountain, and one gentleman even offered to give me the walking stick he was using.  It sounds a little goofy, but it kind of restored my faith that people are good. I must also credit my friend big-time for sticking with me and helping me down the mountain.  Thanks, J!  I understand that knee injuries are very common.  When packing for the trip, make sure to throw a knee stabilizer or ace bandage in your backpack just in case.  You (or someone else) might need it. Even with the injury, I still had a phenomenal time. The views were breathtaking and the rock scrambling was a blast.  As soon as my knee heals, I'll be back!! 

By: SeaKayaker Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, May 31, 2009

Hi Auntie E.  I'm the guy who offered you the Advil.  Glad you made it down okay on Sunday.  When we got back to the upper parking lot I told the trail volunteer in the orange T-shirt that someone had injured their knee and was probably going to take a while to get down.

Old Rag is one of my favorite hikes.  I'm 55 and have done the circuit 4 times in the past 2 years.  This time I brought my wife and 10-year old daughter along for the first time.  They are both mountain goats and I had trouble keeping up with them!  Best advice is to start this hike early in the morning and bring lots of water.  I went through 3 liters and it wasn't even hot out.  We had great weather and great views of the valley and surrounding mountains.  In the summer this can be a brutal hike if you are unprepared and out of shape.

The trail patrol added a rope to ease the bottleneck just after the cave and it seems to have done the trick.  The wait there was minimal.

Worst part of this hike is the walk out on Weakley Hollow Fire Road and then the final mile or so to the lower parking lot.  Very long and boring.  The views of the mountain from the fire road in the spring or fall when the trees are not  leafed out are pretty spectacular.


By: seasonedhiker Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, May 26, 2009

I have hiked this hike many times in weather varying from arid hot summer days to snowy winter storms and I want to respond to FirstTimeHiker's review...  First of all, do you really think it's fair that you rate the hike so low just because of YOUR OWN naivete in planning and execution?

You made countless mistakes on this hike and even before the hike started that caused your suffering and you think that means it's a bad hike?  The signage on Old Rag is setup so a 10 year old can comprehend it, yet your seeming oblivion to the gigantic map at the parking lot, the free handout maps at the pay station, and the countless concrete trail markers with directions printed on them is astounding... yet you still blame the hike for your troubles.

You will probably never hike again, but if you do, please do EVERYBODY a favor (including the rescue folks who would otherwise have to bail you out) and educate yourself about "The Ten Essentials" and set realistic goals for your wilderness adventures.


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, May 25, 2009
A friend of mine suggested we hike Old Rag for Memorial Day. This is the first time I have ever done any hiking. My friend had originally hiked the first part of the trail, the 9 switchbacks got to the beginning of the rock scramble and turned around. This is what she planned for us to do this  time. We arrived around 2:30pm and parked in the upper parking lot. I was depending on her for directions and unfortunately this is were our troubles started. We ended taking Wheatley (sp?) Hollow Fire Trail to the Bryds Nest Day Camp and did the back part of the trail first. It took us 3 hours to cover this part. At this point we started the Rock Scramble and it was horrible, way too much for a newbie. At one point after we had made it down the rope we were trying to figure out how to get over, around this group of boulders. The signs were confusing. I saw at least 2 arrows and 3 blue slashes in this small area. A trio of 18 yr old boys helped guide us down through the boulders.  One of the trail guides had told us that once we made it through the Rock Scamble we would then be hitting 2 miles of downward trail. Easy walking. Ha, I beg to differ.There need to be more markers that tell you how much further you have to go. The trail guide also told us that they check the cars in the parking lots to make sure no one was left on the mountain in the dark. I know that did not happen. I was still walking down at 8pm and told my friend to go ahead and run down to her car because by that point I was not moving too fast. My knee was not bending too well and we were losing light. I told her to see if she could get a flashlight and maybe some help from a park official. By 8:40pm I could barely see were I was going and I was afraid I had somehow gotten onto another trail because these 2 miles trail seemed endless. For the last 40 minutes or so I had been called out Hello hoping someone would hear me and help. At this point I was very concerned that I was on another trail and getting further away from the original trail and my friend and any help she could find. I was trying to find a rock and a dry place to spend the night and wait for the park rangers to find me when I thought I heard something. I heard yelling and I started to yell back. About 5 minutes later I saw some light. Yeah, my friend had found some help and was coming to my rescue. I started going down the trail slowly one step at a time and kept yelling and letting her know I was OK. Well. my friend found me but their was no trail guide. She had gotten to the parking lot. Her car was the only one there. She turned the car lights. She tried calling 911 on her cell but could not get through. Then she had the brilliant idea of using the light from her Samsung cell phone to light the path and she got an emergency flare, light it and came back and got me. It was not fun. I fell down twice and the bruises and scratches on my knees are not pretty. At one point my friend fell and really banged up 3 fingers on her hand and we through they might be broken. We finally got to the parking lot at 9:40pm, soaking wet and covered with mud. In one way I was really proud of us that we had completed this trek. ( I just turned 50 and am a plus size female) but the entire experience truly sucked.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, May 25, 2009

First time hiker.   Sorry your hike continued to be a challenge.   Glad you made it out all right.  I am hoping you recover quickly and come back well rested on a nicer day and do the circuit in the reverse direction.   I enjoyed the time our trails overlapped for awhile.     While many treat Old Rag like it is a walk in a front country park it  is truly a backcountry wilderness hike and survival can become an issue especially when it is cold and wet outside.  Not to be overly dramatic but there are very real dangers on this mountain and people do get injured and yes some have died.    I am not a guide but work as a volunteer for Old Rag Mountain Stewards, PATC, and NPS.  You can learn more about my patrols at  http://oldragpatrolsbyrsl-blook.blogspot.com/ or  http://oldragmountainsteward.blogspot.com/  .   Your comments on signage and blazes are very good feedback.   I will make sure your comments get to appropriate parties and add some of my own concerns/thoughts.   There is no one that would normally check on cars especially since they can belong to the frequent backcountry campers in the park.   What I had said too your group was that I would check specifically for your car when I got out.  This is why I asked you to describe it.   In order to restore some of your faith in mankind,  I want you to know that I did check for your car.   I also checked for the cars of two other groups who told me they did not have any lights and were near the summit around 6PM.    While I picked up and dropped off my radio at the Old Rag Fee Station I parked my car and entered the trail from Berry Hollow on this day.   Berry Hollow is around a 20-30 minute drive from the Old Rag Fee Station.     I got back to the fee station around 10:30 and there were no cars in either lot.  Had I needed to deal with an injured hiker I may have a few hours later than this but I would have still checked or had someone else check for your car.  Of course if I had died of a stroke, heart attack, or rockslide while on the mountain you would have been out of luck.    I remained in the lower lot until around 11PM while I wrote my days report.       Visitors too Old Rag should be aware that cell phones do not generally work but that there are emergency phones at both the Old Rag and White Oak fee stations.    Visitors should also be aware that if you are injured in a non-ambulatory way on parts of Old Rag it may take as long as six hours until first responders arrive and potentially another 10 hours until your littered out to an ambulance.    While there are a few of us volunteers no one should plan on us being there and they should assume this is a self rescue mountain.    I admire the way you and your hiking partner handled the crises once it occured.    In your situation many hikers make decisions that make things worse.   You and your hiking partner did not do this and did a wonderful job of staying calm, using good judge and ingenuity to get yourselfs out safely.     


By: First Timer Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 23, 2009
This hike was absolutely amazing!  My partner and I decided it would be best to leave very early as we have heard this was a long/popular trail.  We ran in to a lot of people on the trail however when we got to the rock scramble we were alone.  It was perfect, a great challenge and a lot of fun.  Although we were not expert hikers we were able to transverse through the trail, bring a map so that you know how far and can get an understanding for the layout.  I ran out of water at the top of the rock scramble (had camel back).  This was a great challenge but also took some planning...  will definately be back out on this trail again.

By: Darren Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 23, 2009
This was really my first hiking trip and I loved it. It was tuff, but fun. I got there at 6:30 am in the upper lot and started about 7:00 am and finished about 12:00 noon. I thought the rock scramble was the best. I am 40years old. I am coming back on 5-30-09 and doing another trail at the same area. My suggestion is make sure you bring the trail maps, they are a big help.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, May 21, 2009
This was the first time I had ever hiked this trail, and it was awesome! Me and two friends started out just before 9 a.m., there were already several cars parked but we only saw about 5 other hikers. We started out with a very quick pace, but once we got to the rocks we slowed down to enjoy the views and catch our breath. The trail was easy to follow with all of the blue signs, but for a while it's almost like there is no trail, you are just climbing the rocks. The views were amazing! Reached the parking lot around 1 pm so it wasn't too long, the descent is very easy down the fire trail. I was very grateful to have hiking shoes on for this trail because my tennis shoes would not have kept me on the rocks for the ascent. This hike is definitely a top one on my list!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, May 21, 2009
In response to MJ...
The rope was fixed this past Sunday afternoon in anticipation of the heavy crowding conditions on Memorial Day weekend..agreed it is unnecessary, but it will go a loooong way toward alleviating the crowding and backlog of hikers just milling about (to the tune of multiple hours on a busy day!)
It will be very helpful to all weekend hikers if the rope is left in place.. if for no other reason than to assist others who may not have the agility to overcome the obstacle..
sincerely,
Old Rag Mountain Stewards

By: MJ Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, May 20, 2009
I can't think of a better way to spend a day than hiking Old Rag - I swear the park rangers stationed in the area have the best jobs in the country. Yesterday marked my first hike on Old Rag since last Fall - perfect weather and very few people made for one of the best days ever on the trail. One item of note is that someone fixed a rope at one of the crux spots on the rock scramble - unnecessary but convenient, and I imagine it helps a lot to speed up the queues the weekend hikers have to deal with. It's worth taking a week day off, waking up early, and getting to the mountain by 7 or 8 to experience it as it deserves to be experienced.

By: MJ Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, May 20, 2009
You all did a great job fixing that rope -- It was a surprise but actually pretty nice.  I would have loved that the first time I did the rock scramble!  On that occasion I did a reverse circuit so was headed down the scramble...  Getting to that point in the hike and trying to figure it out *almost* had me give up and head back up to the fire road. Ended up attaching some paracord to my pack, lowering it to the bottom, and following. I didn't have enough maneuvering room with the pack on to get down safely.  Little touches like that are great - I personally hope the rope stays - If there's a "safe" spot you can recommend I'd be happy to haul up a spare and stow it.

I can only imagine the holiday weekend crowds. Maybe I'll head up this week again with a trash bag and see how full I can get it.

By: WyEast Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 16, 2009
My first time hiking Old Rag. No kidding about the crowds! I hit the trial head at the same time as a group of about 50 plus Japanese tourists (or family reunion?) from ages of about 10 to 70. So I high tailed it up the mountain, worried about being stuck behind them on the scrambling parts. I happily managed to set a pace for myself where the trail wasn't too crowded and I only bumped into one couple on the scrambling part. The summit was crowded, but the fire road peaceful. It was cloudy and foggy this morning so no views but it was still gorgeous with the rocks and the clouds. Maybe the weather deterred some people, but it was like being at Yosemite - totally nuts! Next time I'll probably do it on a weekday or the dead of winter to avoid the masses, though.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 16, 2009
Had a wonderful time on this hike.  There were a definitely a ton of people there so it was necessary to watch out for others on the rock scramble, which was more fun than I had imagined.  We were in a cloud 2/3rds of the time, but it was still beautiful in a misty and surreal way.  The fire road was beautiful and serene as well, and a nice easy cool-down after the main hike.  There's also a nice little stream at the end to cool your feet in!
We took the fire road last...I would not recommend doing it first, because then you'll be going against the crowds coming from the other direction, and you might find it more difficult doing the rock scramble backwards.
We also saw a fat, Holstein-colored dog who eagerly opted to be our spirit guide and lead us to the trail head!

By: The Tick Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 09, 2009
A friend and I had done this hike previously and wanted to get back to it before the crowds came in and this day was a good choice. I had forgotten how tiring the trip to the summit actually is. The humidity was so thick, it drained the energy right out of me.The scrambling is slow going but worth it.  The scrambling is the reason people come and did not dissapoint. The fire road down was uneventful but had a nice view of the water. Spent a while at the summit and the breeze made it a very comfortable rest. Will do again at some point. The 4 mile or so fire road is the only reason it does not get 5 stars.

By: Tony Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 02, 2009
Did this hike today.  Was pretty strenuous for sure.  The rock scrambles were fun and a bit tricky at some places.  Cloudy day today so the views were obscured by the clouds that covered the mountain, but was some good exercise and a good time.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 02, 2009
This was the third time I did this hike, it was part of 4 peak marthon hike we did this year. Got to the hike around 7am, and had only a couple of cars on the parking lot. Completed the round about in less than 3 hours and hiked  to white oak, cedar run and hiked all the way upto Hawksbill through to skyland and way back. Great hike and one of my best one through the years. Next time we plan to to do stoney and mt. robertson on the way back. Took us close to 12 hours for the entire trip, every bit was worth it.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 02, 2009

It was my first hike in a long time.  Didn't expect the rock climbing but thoroughly enjoyed it.  I wore Nike Air Maxes and I would definitely recommend hiking boots.  My shoes worked fine better than the Nike Shocks that some people in our group wore.  They were just a little slippery in some of the rock climbing areas.

I would definitely recommend this hike.  Please remember to bring lots of water and to take your water bottles with you.  Thank you to all the volunteers that were picking up trash and keeping the area beautiful.

Also there were two dogs on the trail that are from the area. Bo and I forgot the other one’s name but they were extremely nice and helpful, believe it or not.


By: Jason Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, April 28, 2009
I hike Old Rag every year a few times.  It is a must hike and truly amazing in the fall.  I like the rock scramble and the fire road is so peaceful. Enjoy!

Jason Watson
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By: KenG Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, April 24, 2009
This hike was much harder than I expected.  I did it on my 60th birthday and now wish I had done it a few decades earlier.  My wife also had trouble with it, but my daughters (29 and 16) did not.  So, if you are young, strong and limber, then it is not so bad.  It doesn't hurt to be fearless either.  There is one point where you have to jump across a small crevasse and, sure, most the time you will make it with ease.  But if you don't, you will be in a world of hurt.

We went the clock-wise route, which took us over the rock scramble on the way up.  We met some hikers who went up the same way, and then turned around and came back down over the rock scramble so they could do it again.  They were very young, very limber and very healthy.  We, on the other hand, kept going, even when we felt like laying down and dying, just so we wouldn't have to face the scramble again.  The entire hike took us about 7.5 hours, and was pretty enjoyable during the first part of the ascent and then again after we finally reached the true summit and started to believe that we were actually going to make it back down.

We didn't see any snakes or bears, but we did run into the Old Rag dog near the summit and then again back in the parking lot.

I don't want to scare you off this trip, but if you haven't done it before and are on the far side of fifty, you might want to consider going up and down the counter-clockwise portion of the trail so that you can reach the top without having to go over the rock scramble.

By: Bonnie Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 18, 2009
This was a wonderful hike, however, not at all for beginners. We thought we did our research- we did not, so let me warn- if you're a beginner- get ready for the challenge of your life!

Here are some pieces of advice for the beginners that I used (or could have used), and am very glad i did:
- Pace yourself, do not go at an aggressive pace. If your group is faster than you- tell them to go ahead and you will meet them at the top.
- The summit is deceiving. You think you get there about four or five times before you actually do.
- WEAR PANTS! The rock scramble is basically a 2 hours piece of the hike (I was under the impression it was a 20 min piece)
- Take breaks- it's perfectly alright. You will need them, especially as the altitude increases.
- Bring much more water than you think you'll need.
- It is 8.8 miles.

GOOD LUCK! And enjoy. Maybe i'll do it again one day...but the fact is, I finished, and I'm very proud :)

By: Bob Look Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 18, 2009

Arguably one of the top ten hikes on the east coast.

I highly encourage you to consider this hike despite the crowds. For a small mountain it offers spectacular views and a little bit of an entry level mountaineering experience. While strenuous and requiring a few short sections of (around six foot) vertical climbing I have seen hikers as young as one and as old as ninety enjoy themselves on this hike.

Every member of your group should have fun on this trip. For some this may mean trying to push their cardio limits and for others it may mean going slowly and taking frequent breaks so it may make sense to split your group based on the pace different individuals want to sustain.

If you split your group have a well communicated group management plan. It is best to keep a buddy system and have clear expectations of where the group will reunite even if that is when everyone gets back to their cars.

It is best not to allow young adventuresome kids to get out of sight on this trail. This trail has many vertical drops, and the possibility of encountering a Bear, Copperhead or Rattlesnake, Poison ivy is common. Of course none of these things should concern you if good judgment and appropriate knowledge are being used but very serious negative consequences could result if either knowledge or judgement is missing.

If you have a large group you may want to split it up just so as to limit the groups impact on other visitors experience. During Old Rag's peak times this advice is probably mute.

If you spend time near tall grass or woods in our area you should learn about and take precautions for ticks.

As the weather gets into the 80's and 90's expect each hiker to need an ounce of water per pound of body weight for the day. (At least up to 100 ounces per hiker).

Cell phones will either not work at all or perhaps only work at a location like a summit.

With the amount of traffic this mountain receives even if only one percent of hikers litter including orange peels, banana peels, and tissue paper it results in a visual assault on future visitors. Please get up to speed and practice Leave No Trace ethics.

Dogs are not permitted on the Ridge Trail or Saddle trail above Old Rag Shelter.

I am usually on the mountain as a volunteer patroller one day of every weekend. These patrols are done for either PATC Trail Patrol or Old Rag Mountain Stewards. Starting in May the Old Rag Mountain Stewards will be on the mountain on most weekend days. We are there to help with information, injuries, lost hikers, and liter pick up. We welcome questions or requests for help. Do not depend on us being available and consider this a self-rescue mountain but that said, realize we may be able to help.

I maintain a blog about my weekly Old Rag Patrols along with lots of advice at http://oldragpatrolsbyrsl-blook.blogspot.com/ it has a link back to this site under the Blogs List section.


By: hdd Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 11, 2009

We stayed at Skyland Friday night and got a late start in the morning because the fog was so thick we couldn't see 2 car lengths ahead of us.  It wasn't fog after all, but a low lying cloud that hung around hung around most of the day and block the views from the trail.  The trail was still pretty crowded.  There was never a time when we didn't see other hikers.  In fact, we saw a little too much of one woman who decided to take a dump just off the trail in plain view of us.  We stopped as far away as we could and examined the tops of the trees and the rocks below us, anything but her in all her glory.  As we continued up the trail, we couldn't help noticing that this pig person left her used toilet paper right where she dropped it.  Disgusting.   For the most part, the trail was remarkedly free of trash, except for a few dropped tissues that I think were left by the same socially challenged woman. 

I'm only a weekend hiker at best.  The uphill climb and the rock scramble was a challenge, but not overly difficult.  There were a few places where I gratefully accepted a helping hand up the rocks.  Our 11-old-son was in his element, easily hopping and climbing from one rock to another.  We found a niche in a spot near the summit that was out of the wind to stop and eat lunch.  I actually sort of liked the somewhat windy chilly damp conditions of the day because it kept us cool.  The only downside was that we couldn't see anything but a blanket of clouds below us.  We had a good day. I'm only sorry I've never done this hike before because I was always a little intimidated by it. 


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, March 28, 2009
This was my third trek to Old Rag. Started up the Weakley Hollow fire road for a nice leisurely hike about 11 am. Quickly turned to fog half way up so as to obscure the view when we arrived at the summit. Took the celebratory photos as we ate lunch and also posed the boulder and lever scenes. The boulder scramble was fun but daunting. I was in a party of 6 and we greatly appreciated the help from each other as we pulled people up and also gave coaching for the best slide down on certain obstacles. The hike ended in a complete downpour. But no crying here. A bit of food at Brown's Chinese/American Restaurant in Luray, good conversation about the hike and hot green tea provided all the recuperation our party needed. I'm ready for another ascent for the fall colors, and hopefully, an expansive view from the summit. By the way, my party was primarily Sunday afternoon hikers.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, March 23, 2009
This is my second time and was as good as the first (last year in May) except the weather was even better today.  Mid 50's, Spring sun, a total of 5-6 people seen the entire loop.  Saw the Old Rag dog several times (he was leading a hiker down the rock scramble)- I'm pretty used to the hike so took it easy.  Nothing else to report everyone else has except if you're hiking in the next week or two there are a few little patches of ice you may encounter and a little mud- nothing of much concern.

To me the key to truly enjoying Old Rag is:

1) Don't race.  I have a tendency to race but have learned to relax.  You will get a workout even if you take it easy (eg. 5h).
2) Go on Weekdays whenever possible. I haven't gone on weekends but have read and heard some pretty bad stories (waiting foreever for people to navigate the scramble, for example).  On the other hand, if you don't care then..
3) Spend at least a half hour at the top and ENJOY it (eat lunch, rock hop, take photos).  I see so many people that just cruise through or turn around.  What's the point of all that work?  Enjoy your accomplishment.

Great hike and will be sad to see it go as I'm moving :(

P.S.  If you find a roll of exposed film there it's mine!!! :)

By: Linda Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, March 14, 2009
We have been here for 2 times.  this was our first time hiking here in Winter time. It was rainning and temprature was around 32 F. There was fog that generated a special view.   we had a great time.

By: Cindy Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, March 12, 2009
Our trio arrived at the upper parking lot shortly before 11:00 a.m. We felt lucky to get one of the last two spots available. By 11:05, another car pulled up, got the last spot, then, shortly thereafter, two more vehicles arrived. It was a semi-busy day on Old Rag.

The hike up was spectacular. The air was cool, and the views were phenomenal. Previously, I'd only hiked Old Rag in the summer, so the views without leaves on the trees were stunning. We met a dog part way up. (THE Old Rag dog?) His tag indicated that he lived across the street from the Old Rag parking lot. We poured a little water for him, but he wasn't interested. Seems that he was just taking a breather before heading back down the mountain.

The trail conditions were excellent. There was some damp dirt on the trail but not enough to wet our boots and cause problems on the rocks. We saw a little ice but nothing we couldn't walk around. The views from the summit were gorgeous. It was chilly up there and cold enough to see your breath – but we hung around for an hour enjoying our lunch and the serenity before taking the fire road back to the parking lot. Dressing in layers is a must.

Can't wait to go back again soon to see what a new season has brought to Old Rag.


By: Midlo day hikers Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, March 08, 2009

Our group of 5 (3 teenage girls, 8 yr. old boy & me) began hiking around 7:45 AM. The upper parking lot had 4 cars there when we arrived.  It took a long time to move this group up the mountain...reaching the summit around 12:30 PM.  My 8 yr. old son hiked the entire 8 mile circuit with no complaint, but the girls were a completely different story!  This is a hard hike if your not in shape.  But they loved the rock scramble and pushed themselves to finish the hike.  We met great people on the trail.  We left Old Rag with big smiles and sore feet.


By: Mike & Linda Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, February 08, 2009

We hiked Old Rag on Sunday Feb 9.  We got there about 8:00 AM, and the upper parking lot still had a few spaces left.  We met "Old Rag Dog" and he went up the trail with us for about a mile or so, before going back down with another hiker.

The weather was perfect, although windy on the summit.  Had a great time.

We began encountering some ice on the ridge trail about half way up, and it was intermittent from then on, in the shady areas.  There was a LOT of mud, particularly going down to Weakly Hollow, before the fire road. 


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, January 17, 2009

I do a patrol on the mountain most weekends.    Winter is a special time on the mountain.    Far fewer people and lots more views especially on lower trails that are under canopy in the warm weather.    Be aware the ice and or snow can make the route far more difficult and the lack of lots of fellow hikers adds new meaning to the concept of self rescue.   On the other hand it  is surprising the number of winter weekends when the trail is clear and dry.    I have a blog which is a photo journal of my patrols and includes helpful advice.    It can be found at:   http://oldragpatrolsbyrsl-blook.blogspot.com/.


By: Robbie Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, December 30, 2008
This was my and my sons second trip to Old Rag and this time I was fortunate to have my wife and daughter join us.  The weather was perfect, approx 47 degrees at 9:30am and absolutely crystal clear blue skies!!  It was a little breezy up on top but I believe that is always expected.  We hiked up the steeper 2.5 mile side and struggled a little through the rock scramble and I'll explain that a little later.  We finally made it to the summit at approximately 1pm.  The views were spectacular and yes there were quite a few other people enjoying the day as it was quite busy at the top.  We decided to take the longer route down the West Saddle Back side, knowing it was longer but not as challenging.  We finished the hike at 3:30 and of course we did have lunch on the summit at the Old Rag Bar and Grill.  Steak and beer always good!!

Now to explain our difficulty with the rock scramble....
Before making the hike we checked out this website to see if dogs were allowed and did not see anything indicating that they were'nt so we decided to take our yellow lab.  When we arrived we saw the No Pet signs but had already driven 1.5 hrs to come do the hike so we decided to risk getting caught and took the dog (kept on leash) with us.  I had remembered the 12 foot gorge and figured that would be our biggest challenge with the dog and I was correct.  However, I had forgotten all of the other challenging climbs and we really had a time getting the dog through all of the rocks.  In the end, we survived and the dog had a great time, did not get hurt and did not bother anyone!

Please add a note to this web page indicating that no dogs are allowed on the hike!!
Looking forward to doing it again in the future but without the dog :)

Robbie~

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, December 30, 2008
What a beautiful day to go hiking on Old Rag. Could not have been more perfect. Got to take both my daughters and dad. The girls loved it and want to go back.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, December 14, 2008

I was the fifth vehicle in the upper parking area at 8:15 Sunday morning.  This was my first time at Old Rag.  As I was getting my gear ready, two more vehicles pulled into the lot, so I quickly started up the mountain, clockwise.  I encountered some ice before the scramble, but nothing to impair movement.  I reached the scramble, and there was a lot more ice.  I exercised a bit of caution, made my way up the mountain, and stopped to help another hiker get over a particularly large rock.  I finally reached the summit (thank you, NPS, for the sign), took in the stunning views, enjoyed a snack, and made my way around the mountain in five hours.  I'll try it counter-clockwise next time.


By: Art B III Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, December 06, 2008
A good hike today. My third Old Rag hike this year.  Upper lot filled by 9:00. 18 degrees at 9:00. We did the clockwise loop in 5.5 hours w/ lunch and a couple of side trips. The high didn’t get over 25. We found patches of ice on the trail. There was zero melting today, all the ground was frozen solid. Light snow flurries in the afternoon. The stunning 360 panorama at the top attracts lots of hikers and unfortunately litter. Pretty steep ascent and challenging scrambles. This is not for the out of shape or unprepared. Remember to dress inlayers and to bring extra clothes, water and food. A beautiful hike but not a hike to get away from it all.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, November 25, 2008

This was my second time up Old Rag and I brought my 24 year-old son with me this time.  He was visiting from Colorado and frequently hikes in the Rockies. 

We were pleasantly surprised to see only a handful of cars in the upper lot when we arrived at 9:00 a.m., and we didn't see anyone on the trail - even the summit.  He loved the hike and gave it the thumbs up with regards to difficulty, but he barely broke a sweat.  I was a little more challenged and he did have to give his old mom a hand up in one spot. 

The snow blew in right after we left the summit and we hurried down the back side for a 4-hour round trip.  It was sunny again by the time we reached the parking lot.


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, November 16, 2008
Great hike! Needed help on a couple of occasions, both with a hand up on a few of the harder rocks and with directions at one point--thanks Bob and friend. Also, don't recommend wearing shorts...

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, November 11, 2008
So what can I add to the conversation here? If you want to go on a holiday, try Veterans Day! I arrived at the parking lot at 8:40am, with about only 6 other cars there, and when I got up to the upper parking area, it wasn't overflowing. When I got back at 2:30pm, there were definitely over a hundred cars in the lower, and the upper lot was overflowing to an extent I didn't know was legal. Thanks to my fairly early start on a holiday where not everyone gets off, solitude was about a 2 maybe even a 3. I did a large loop, adding in a climb to Robertson Mountain. For those who always seem to inquire here, it looks like there are a couple camping spots at the summit of Robertson Mountain. Just note that its eastern slope is a very steep ascent/descent. My loop was about 13.25 miles, and about 4,200' of ascent. Robertson Mountain does have a small overlook, but it's westward-only, there really aren't any good photo ops of the Ol' Rag. Next time I'll take the Corbin Hollow Trail. It's still flowing pretty well this time of year, so it must not be terribly seasonal like some other streams in SNP. As for my hike of Old Rag itself. Just read the other glowing reviews, they're all true!

By: Greg and Pearlly Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, November 09, 2008
This weekend was our first time in SNP. We did this hike on Sunday morning, and it's as busy as the other reviews say. We arrived at the parking lot at 8am and there were already a dozen cars there (the upper lot was full). The ranger at the parking lot was very friendly and offered some great advice about the hike. The rock scramble is indeed quite challenging but very fun. The view from the summit makes the hard work worthwhile! Definitely start on the Ridge trail so that you tackle the scramble on the way up instead of the way down. Thanks to the Hiking Upward site maintainers and the other reviewers! The maps, instructions, and tips were all excellent.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, November 03, 2008
At about 7AM, my co-worker and I were the first car to pull into the parking lot at the trail head.  During the first 40 minutes, we saw a number of newly posted signs that warned of bears on the trail.  The signs had a phone number on it, but my co-worker's cell phone was unable to connect from that location.  My co-worker was especially concerned, so I agreed to discontinue our hike, and we turned back.  Then about 20 minutes later we watched a family of 6 (that included one 5 year old, and two who were about 8 years old) walking up the trail without a care in the world.  That provided my co-worker with a newly found courage, so we made a 180 degree turn, and up the mountain we started again.  It was difficult to climb the rocks at many several, as wet rocks were making it near impossible for out hiking boots to provide good footing.  As a result, we used out hands quite a bit, making me realize that I should always carry gloves on this hiking rout.  We each had a backpacks that had to be removed at several locations to successfully maneuver around the rocks so next time I'll use a smaller back.  As we approached the top, we saw that same family of 6, which had so much energy that one of their crew (8 year old) was climbing a tree.  After about 3 hours we reached the top.  The view was terrific, as there were clouds floating below us, providing for great photographs.  On the way up the trail, we saw about 14 other hikers.  After about 30 minutes, we started down the same way we came up, and saw many hikers making their way up the mountain.  That was hard to imagine, as it was a non-holiday (Monday morning), but up they came in droves.  There was one spot in the rocks that created a tremendous bottleneck, as about 15 hikers were lined up to individually tackle a 7 foot drop.  On the way down, I'd say we saw about about 60 hikers making their way up.  Many of those hikers would ask how much further to the top, and we'd give an honest answer, despite thinking that some of them lacked the conditioning to make it to the top.  (Not such a big deal, as even we turned around)  We reached the car at 1PM, and were glad to see it.  Next time up, I will just bring two containers of Gatorade, an an 8-ounce bag of dried bananas, and gloves.  Anyone heading up this trail really, really should bring a friend, as there is simply too much potential for injury.  I'd think twice before bringing up anyone younger than 7 years old, as it is quite a hike.  Still, I must say, that 5 year old did make it to the top without any noticable difficulty.  He must have super genes.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, November 03, 2008

Excellent weather, very few hikers and fantastic visibility made up for our late 1pm start.  I read over and over that the hike takes 5.5 hours for the 8.8 mile loop.  I don't think this accounts for taking it all in.  One thing I wanted to make clear for Old Rag newbies (like myself), is that you will want to spend time soaking up the texture, geometry and physics of the granite, and of course the views.  If you are a camera nut, add several hours.  But here's the other thing, if you've never hiked the trail - you don't have to do the entire loop, and you don't even have to do the true summit.  The "minor" northern summit is fantastic.  We made this summit in a couple of hours up the ridge trail from the upper lot, explored around there for an hour or so, and then went back down the way we came.  I think this makes a fairly strenuous hike of a little more than 5 miles round trip.  If its your first hike, this route is also a very easy way to gauge your time at the summit, since you know the route back - and obviously the return goes faster with help from Sir Isaac going downhill.  I was unsure what to bring.  Next time, after a parking lot pre-hike sandwich, I think I'll bring a camera, a couple of granola bars and one bottle of water in a VERY small, light pack.  Note that you'll likely have to conserve with just one bottle of water, even in cooler temperatures.

I'm surprised that so many people bring young kids.  Some areas seemed very dangerous.


By: Jon Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, October 30, 2008

I accutally had a couple of questions about the hike.

I planned on doing it this weekend with some friends from out of town. We wouldn't be arriving on the mountain till about 2:00 pm and with the sunsetting at 6:15 is it possible to hike the trail? We are all in great shape, and I saw that one post did it in 4hrs 15 mins so I am holding out some hope. I am guessnig we'd have to bring some flash lights as well...

Also, can anyone recomend a good campsite near by? I can be reached at JonCunha @ gmail .com (please delete the spaces when emailing...)

Thanks!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, October 28, 2008
I am going at it again. Bringing my other daughter and another friend along. I got a new sport leg and with the shock absorber, it will be a lot easier on the down side of the mountain. Can't wait. Thank GOD for days off from school, it gives us another chance to get to the top before bad weather hits us. Enjoy a video I made of the hike at the bottom of the page. You can check out our last trip on this page.

By: slim local Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, October 27, 2008
Contrary to the previous reviewer...DO NOT TAKE SHARP ROCK ROAD... it is a local unimproved road, very, VERY narrow , maintained and open for access to local farmland and homes. It is NOT designed for traffic of the volume that Old Rag attracts (hence the other entrance 1 mile away.. duh!) Most visitors to Old Rag drive at speeds much too fast for a road of this type... Use the signed main access road!

By: Robert G. Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, October 26, 2008

First off, do not us Google/Mapquest maps, as it gives the wrong way.  Trust me, do the following:  From Sperryville go South on 522 a short distance, and turn right on 231 (Ft.Valley Road). Go approx 8 miles and take a right on 707, Sharp Rock Road.  This goes toward the winery.  It's gravel in parts & goes over a small bridge.  After the bridge, turn right (Nethers Road/707/600) and follow to the Old Rag entrance.  We wasted an HOUR w/ our other directions, and the rangers told us they were aware and were trying to get Google to update the map.  We encountered numerous others doing the same thing as we did...so don't get lost, use the above directions.  Other than that, the day was gorgeous and Old Rag came through wonderfully on our first visit out this way.  It was a bit wet in spots, and crowded near the top of the rock scramble (where we waited for 45 minutes)....but other than that, great views and some good excericse! With the late start, delays and lower lot parking (an added mile each way to walk), we still got around in about 5 hours.

HikingUpward.com: Our Google driving map directions have been updated to correct for the error in Google's directions software.

By: Kat Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, October 19, 2008
We hiked Old Rag yesterday for the first time.  It was amazing.  60 degrees and clear blue sky!!  The rock scrambles were a lot of fun and we got some beautiful pictures.  Ate our lunch at the summit and bumped into people we knew!  So we had some company down the hill.  We are active runners and the whole trail took us 4:15 (from the overflow parking lot).  We are still pretty sore this morning!!  There were a lot of people but we got to the trail head relatively early (9am) so there were people around but it wasn't too crowded.  When we got back to the lot after the hike, it was FULL - so go early for the least foot traffic.  Thanks so much for this site - it's very helpful!  Can't wait for the next adventure!

By: Bob Look Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, October 19, 2008

I am on the mountain volunteering for the Old Rag Mountain Steward and PATC Trail Patrol organizations. October is the peak hiking season for this favorite hike. We can see between 800-1,200 hikers on a good weather October weekend day. During the peak traffic time the most difficult spot on the rock scramble (which must be done one person at a time) can have a wait-in-line time of over 45 minutes. The NPS parking lots can fill to capacity with locals sometimes providing parking on their land for a fee (estimate $10). When available the parking  in the 250 space NPS lot is free. Anytime you enter Shenandoah National Park there is an entry fee and Old Rag is no exception. If you have one of the appropriate annual passes or have paid for entry to Shenadoah National Park in the last six days you are covered.   In October the individual entry fee is $8 per person.  There are a lot of nuances to the entrance fees which can be found at http://www.nps.gov/shen/planyourvisit/entrance_fees.htm.

Despite the numbers of hikers the hike is still well worth doing because (except for the choke points) the mountain easily absorbs large numbers of hikers, the rock scramble provides a fun and rewarding adventure and there are numerous wonderful top-of-the-world views.

You can avoid the crowds by time-shifting to very early in the morning,  going on a weekday when it is almost empty,  hiking it in bad weather, or hiking it during a less popular month. With darkness coming earlier each day it is best to bring a light or two(unlike suburban streets darkness can sometimes mean not even being able to see your hands or feet). There are no pets allowed on the Old Rag Ridge trail or above the Old Rag Shelter on the Saddle Trail. Many would discourage bringing very young children but If you are going to bring young children, it is best to have at least two adults so one can be at the bottom and one at the top of the 6-10 foot vertical sections where a young child may need spotting, encouragement, or to be actually handed up or down.

Fun Facts: Old Rag Granite was formed around a billion years ago and is some of the oldest rock in the park.

When the park was formed there were many homesteads dotting the flanks of the Weakley Hollow side of Old Rag Mountain. Near the intersection of the Old Rag and Weakley Hollow fire roads there used to be a Post Office, School, General Stores, and churches.


By: gohikego Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, October 10, 2008
This is one of our favorite hikes in VA.  I have been hiking this this trail off and on over the past 28 years.  And it is still the best.  However, the rocks have become very slick on the rock scramble  part of the trail.  Making it very hard to get a good foot hold.    That being said,  its still wonderful.  This is a great hike for family's.  Our 7 year old daughter hiked it with us this past Friday and  this is her third trip up Old Rag.   It did take us 6.5 hours however. And, we hiked the trail this past Aug ( the little one was only 6 yrs old then).   And then there was the first time we hiked her up the mountain when she was only 2-almost 3 years old- (now that was hard work,  not sure what we were thinking!!!!)   However, our other girls helped us get her over the rock scrambles.  It was a family effort.   Don't pass up this hike.  But, a word to the wise- try to hike it on a weekday.  On the weekends it's packed. You will have to wait in long lines to get up some of the hard to climb rock scrambles. Yes, there are traffic jams on Old Rag.   I've seen folks take for ever to over come their fears to move up the rocks.  And some are just too out of shape to pull themselfs up  and over the rocks.  SO, hike on the week days if you can.  Enjoy.

By: treshojas Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, October 04, 2008
I haven't hiked Old Rag since last year and I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on how wet is too wet for this hike. I don't think I would hike it in the rain. But even though they're calling for clear skies on this Sunday, it'll have been raining almost a straight week by the time the weather clears to hike. I am wondering if the trail would still be too wet/ slippery/ muddy. I can't recall the terrain exactly enough to make the call.

Thanks for suggestions...

By: reed Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, September 07, 2008

Wonderful!! I did it with my Fiancee and we are not hikers. We are in pretty good shape and we actually made the entire loop in less than 4 hours and we stopped to take pictures and to eat some sandwiches at the summit. The rock scramble was interesting but nothing really tough, I did have to help her out with a push or pull up in spots. I took a hydration pack with 2 liters and she took one with 1 liter and we both had plenty of water left at the end.

The views are awesome and it is a great alternative way to get in a good day of exercise and to enjoy the outdoors.


By: Ms. 45 Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, August 23, 2008

I've wanted to hike Old Rag for a long time (lived in DC for 20 years and never done it) and declared that it's how I would celebrate my 45th birthday.  My husband and I are of moderate fitness level (mostly weekend warriors) and really enjoyed the hike.  The scrambles were fun (there were two challenging sections but fellow hikers were very patient as we plotted our course).   We saw a bear in the cornfield as we were parking and a cub ran past us on the Weakley Hollow Fire Road. 


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, August 18, 2008

This is the first time I have hiked this mountain in over 15 years. But the difference this time is: I have one less foot and I took my 8 year old daughter for her first mountain hiking experience. All of the spectacular views I can remember as a child I now have with my daughter. Another great part of this story is that my dad also climbed with us at 73 years old. So, anyone scared of this mountain should not be because if a senior, a crippled dude and an 8 year old girl can do this hike, anyone can  do it. It is challenging, especially with one leg, but I did it and plan on taking my other daughter next summer.

The One Legged Guy

Check out the One Legged Guy on top of Old Rag Mountain


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, August 06, 2008
Absolutely awesome.  One of the best father-son outings I've had with my 11 year old.  Gorgeous views. Saw some deer on the ascent and a black bear approx a mile from the end on Weakley Hollow FR.  Can't wait to do it again (just have to wait for the blisters to heal!!)

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, July 31, 2008

I hiked this trail last summer. For the one person who asked about dogs... I brought my medium sized dog (lab/pointer mix) and he did better than i did! I even did the trail backwards so i had to go down the rock scramble, and he was fine. I suggest taking a dog for wonderful exercise on this trail!

Like i said, i went up it backwards so it was definitley exhausting going up and down the mountian. The one great thing is, if you go in that direction, at the top is a bunch of other trials. That way, you can chose which direction you want to continue without stopping on the trail. It is one of my favorite hikes! I can't wait to do it again..

By: Amy Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, July 26, 2008
A friend and I played hooky from work and started up around 3:00 on a Friday.  We were able to park at the top lot with no problem, a bonus from the usual weekend hikes we do.  It was probably in the mid 80s temperature-wise when we started, and we kept a pretty fast pace up to the scramble, so we were pretty drenched.  The last time we hiked this we had some snow, making the rocks slippery, and it was much easier to get over some of the tougher parts of the scramble  We were treated to some beautiful vistas at the top, but unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your level of adventure) we did not run into the bears that other hikers seem to have seen lately.  It took us an hour to get to the scramble, and then another 40 minutes to summit, so we were going at a pretty fast clip.  We passed a couple of other hikers on the way up, but coming out on a weekday was definitely better than the usual weekend traffic.  So, if you can take the day off to do this amazing and challenging hike, do it!

By: Anonymous Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, July 18, 2008
A great hike, that offers rock scrambles for a family hike that are second to none.  Great scenic vistas on the rock scrambles and summit.  Also there are many great places to eat lunch while feeling a nice cool breeze and admiring the views.  Saw two different sow black bears each with 2 cubs today. The first set was less than a quarter mile from the start of the rock scramble, and the second set was approximately a quarter mile from the summit.  Overall a great hike for almost all ages.

By: ricky Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, July 05, 2008
i hicked this with a couple of my buds the other saturday.. it was all cool and nice. saw a bear.. a couple of baby bears... and a dog.. we tried to help out the bear with some extra food...they looked pretty hungry.. got some great pictures til she snorted and stomped the ground... probably a bad idea... as we got to what we thot was the top (turns out it wasent) we met some dog.. black an white AND full OF TICKS!... we figgered it had to be starving.. how the heck did a dog git up there? Well we stopped 'cause we were tired of carrying a cooler of beer up there... just decided to lighten our load... and theat dog just seemed to get hungrier and hungrier.. so whatdya know.. first thing bobby started chucking baloney and cheese sandwich chunks for him.. that dog was digging it! he was chowing down .. well one thing led to another and soon we wer flinging baloney and cheese like frisbies.. that dog gittin more and more excited.. well... oops... one went flying right off the top of that open space.. and wouldn't you know it.. without skipping a beeat, that dog took a flying leep right off after that sanwitch... oops... we're sorry.  we looked for him, but had no luck... so we figgered he must of finally found his way off the top of that mountain,, and hopefully back home..
I don't think he got hurt.. he landed in a lot of shrubs and trees and stuff.

all in all a really good hick..

By: Ghost of D. Laurence Rogers Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, July 05, 2008

I am mighty glad  you posted your review.   I was bushwacking up on Old Rag catching  some new rattlers for the next day's Sunday service and off in the distance I caught sight of Jr., a neighborhood dog flying hundreds of feet through the air like Rin Tin Tin or  Lassie with something in his mouth.   I could not see him land but it did sound like it was in a bunch of brush.  I knew Jr sometimes got bored and played  tag with moma bear but I did not think he would try Parkour.   So your posting splained a lot.   Like you, I could not find him so he must have landed okay and just takin off for home.     Of course I have not seen him doing walk-about lately so I hope he is okay.

By the way this is truly one of the best hikes ever.   You get to have fun on a granite playground.  Lots of great views.   Usually lots of intersesting; wildlife, history, geology, weather and fellow hikers/climbers.  If  you happen to see the legendary dog Jr. it is just icing on the cake.   


By: Terri Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, June 28, 2008
The lost dog isn't really a lost dog.  His name is Jr. and he lives at the bottom of the mountain.  We spoke to the owners who said he tends to follow hikers up the trail sometimes.  He always finds his way back home.  They said unless he's injured, don't worry, he'll find his way back. 

By: Ronnen Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, June 25, 2008
One of my best hikes ever.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, June 18, 2008
Took advantage of cooler weather and fitted in between showers a beautiful and successful hike for an old codger aged 73. Started up the fire road about 5pm and hiked through until 1:30am. Takes longer in the dark when a full moon does not cooperate.
I have a great picture of the face of Old Rag, taken after leaf fall on a clear late afternoon. Unusual and beautiful shot I would be willing to share. I can e-mail it to you.

By: Mark D. Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, June 15, 2008

Great hike on Fathers' day.  Two important notes:  1) there is lost dog hiding in the rocks near the first steep downward scrabble.  He's a black and while border collie and someone had left some water for him but I think he didn't have a owner there on the hike; and 2) 15 years of hiking with the knowledge that this is rattlesnake country but the first time I've ever run into one.  To expand on the 2nd point, we were at Summit Crags and bouldering near the trail when I steped towards a boulder and heard a distinct quick rattle.  I stepped back and saw I was within one foot of a coiled and ready to strike rattlesnake.  I stepped back about four feet and it finally relaxed and slithered away under a deeper boulder crack.  When it stretched out, it was about 4 feet long and very thick.  Thank the TG's for not having gotten any closer or worse.  But the hike was great.  Bouldering at Summit Crags was good but the granite is very sharp.  Enjoy and be safe! 


By: Shutter Nerd Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, June 07, 2008

Awesome hike!! No need to think about whether to hike this wonderful trail or not. I've hiked this trail numerous times, and it has not gotten old..

It was about 100 degrees out when my friend and I hiked it. Whether it's 100 degrees or not, make sure you bring enough water, wear sunscreen (you really need it), and have lots of fun! Definetely one of the best hikes in Shenandoah, if not the best..


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 31, 2008
This was my fourth time doing Old Rag and the bouldering part is still as exciting as ever. We got there pretty late - around noon - and decided to go ahead and drive past the ranger stand to the upper parking lot right at the mouth of the trail. We lucked out and found the sole available spot. The forecast predicted thunderstorms at 3 p.m. and we were hoping this would mean a slightly less overcrowded hike than usual. Sadly, that wasn't the case. Still, we managed to overtake most of the giant groups with children on our hike up the mountain, and were more or less undisturbed for the scrambling portions at the top. By the time we got to the last rock overlook - the one that leads to the hike back down - we saw giant dark clouds speeding towards us. We had some lunch and headed off the mountain. We were safely on the yellow trail by the time the rain hit. While it was intense and unpleasant, it didnt last longer than 10 minutes and we dried off quickly in the sun. No bear or rattle snake sightings this time. Although we did almost step on a giant but harmless black snake. All in all, fun, as usual.

By: Matthew Amon Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, May 25, 2008

Old Rag Mountain is a great hike.  I started at about 10:30AM and ended around 4:30PM.  My group and I could have made the circuit more quickly but we stopped at the top for a leisurely lunch/rest.  The hike up to the rock scramble is steep but manageable.  The scene is all forest with some mountain streams (ice cold) and the occassional boulder.  My favorite part of the hike was the rock scramble to the top.  It was both fun and challenging to squeeze through some of the narrow gaps and claw up the steep boulders.  The scramble is difficult but entirely 'do-able' for anyone under 300lbs and not carrying children on one's back. 

Recommendations:  1. Pack more water than you think you will need.

2.  Wear sunscreen.

3.  Wear sturdy shoes with good grips.

4.  Only hike the mountain on "dry" days.  If it's raining, even a little, forget it.  Go check out a vineyard.

5.  Plan for at least 5 hours on the mountain.

6.  Don't fret about the slow tourists at the beginning.  The climb thins out the weak.


By: Susan Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 24, 2008
Great hike on a beautiful day.  We started early which I would recommend so you don't have to wait at slot canyons.  Great views and good workout.  Will do it again

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 24, 2008
Perfect weather made for a perfect hike. Left the lower parking lot around 10 am, after heading up that way from Virginia Beach around 5. Slightly congested trail early on but it seemed most people were more for a leisurely pace heading up the switchbacks, so it thinned out as we neared the northern peak. Absolutely stunning views, and they just kept getting better & better as the elevation increased. The rock scramble was probably the most entertainment I've had while hiking in a long time. Not since my youth growing up in Ely, MN have I enjoyed myself in the outdoors as much as I did on this mountain. Overall, we made the hike in 5 hours, due to some congestion going through the tight spaces before the scramble, and I alone went through 4 liters of water.

If someone is hiking for the appeal of seeing wildlife, this is probably not the best place, as the entire hike yielded only a few Vultures (although it is neat to watch birds soaring, below you), some Ravens, and one Eastern Towhee. I don't even remember seeing a single squirrel to be honest. This is probably the only negative I can come up with though, as it definitely was a fantastic circuit! One I'd recommend, and have already started, to anyone who enjoys & appreciates the natural beauty of the outdoors!

Some of the better photos from my trip:    Old Rag Mountain Photos


By: Meredith Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, May 20, 2008
My husband and I have hiked this trail numerous times and love it! BE AWARE THOUGH, our second time doing this hike, night fell before we made it down all the way. We missed the 'exit' sign at the bottom of the trail and spent all night wandering around lost. There was no moon that night and we had no light. (not to mention food, water, or cell reception) It was a scary miserable (cold!) night traversing the fire roads back and forth until the sun came up and we found our car. This was in September when the days were shorter, but still-- be prepared! :)

By: James from NJ Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, May 14, 2008
Hiked it on a Wednesday during mid-May. Got to the parking lot at 7:am with several spots left. 2 days earlier it snowed up there...  Very few other people up there that day. This was the most challenging (for me) hike I had ever done, but it was also the most fun. I would recommend it to anyone who is in reasonablly good shape, but not too overweight, but it is not for very small children, or for those with acrophobia. Tough, slow  going on the boulder scrambles, but what a blast! I had'nt climbed like that since I was a young boy (I am mid-50-ish) ..  Keep a sharp lookout for the blue markers painted on the rocks, some are easy to miss. Great views from the top and from several other spots. Allow at least 5 hours, taking the fire road back to the lot. At the end of the day, I felt like I had really accomplished something. It felt really great to soak in a bathtub of hot water afterward. I will definitely go back ASAP.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, May 02, 2008

This was an incredible trail becoming very challenging but also very fun. The temperature on Friday was 80 degrees and sunny. The first part of the ascent was normal trail with some incredible boulders along the way, but was tiring due to the constant uphill climb. After reaching the rock scramble the hike became an adrenaline rush. There are some great view areas  to stop for break and a bite to eat. The rock scramble became challenging but everyone in our party including our wives who have hardly ever hiked handled it well.  Reaching the summit was incredible and a view I will never forget. As we were sitting on the top taking a break two dogs appeared. We thought they were lost and wondered how they got to the top of the mountain but I read their tags and they were from a home near the Old Rag parking lot. They must come up the trail counterclockwise and take advantage of the hikers food who think they are lost. I was one to give some snacks. This was an amazing trip and one I will never forget. I highly recommend this adventure.


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, April 06, 2008

Hiked Old Rag twice in one week.  Sunday, April 6 nine of us started @ 6:30am in the rain and it pretty much rained the entire time.  We were a bit concerned about scrambling the rock but there was not a problem.  I drank 9 oz of water.

Friday, April 11 four of us hiked.  The weather was much warmer and there was no wind.  It didn't occur to me to bring sunscreen a big mistake; burned pretty bad.  Had 45oz of water and ran out @ the top.

Both times we made the loup in 4 hours. It was more difficult climbing as I have asthma and need to stop & open up my lungs, but once on the rocks and then returning it was not a problem.

Stop in Sperryville afterwards.  Both Thorton River Grill and Ray's have fantastic food.  Check their website for hours so you aren't disappointed.

Both hikes were thru meetup.com


By: Stephanie and Jonathan Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 05, 2008
This hike was great! I didn't know how difficult the rocks at the top were, and it was a challenging surprise! My boyfriend and I had an amazing time on this hike, especially since it was so beautiful. One thing is that no dogs are allowed, I didn't remember reading that on this site. The trip up was pretty packed with people, but it was nice because a lot of them had done the hike before and they were able to guide us through some tough spots. We took the back trail down and that had no people on it. All around it was a great day!

By: Michelle, Brian, Isaac Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, March 03, 2008
Spring break, beautiful, 70+ day. Got to the upper parking lot around 11am and there were still a few parking spaces left. Ascended quickly, becoming slightly fatigued as the elevation and grade rose. Ground was quite muddy/sloppy in a few places, including a few rare spots of ice sheet that had not yet melted. No bears. There were a few tough spots on the rock scramble, including tight squeezes and large gaps.

Had long underwear under mesh pants, and tank top under long-sleeved shirt. All of the above plus a knit hat was necessary at the summit where the wind was going full force. Otherwise the long underwear and tank top were fine for the rest of the sweaty hike.

Climbed to the top in about 3.5 hours including breaks (maybe about 2.5 hours of traveling time), then took another 1.5 to come down, arriving at the parking lot by 4pm.

I did the hike in trailwalking shoes and my toes felt a little tender from all the downhill. Relatively good grip on the uphill/rock scramble except for a few slippery spots where I had to get a little help from my two hiking buddies (i'm 5'4" and my limbs were just a little short...).

This is a strenuous but not difficult trail. If you go slowly (as we did not) it should not be particularly difficult if you are in a group.

By: Larry Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, March 02, 2008

After looking at the mountain for 20+ years, I finally decided to give it a try. On our first attempt about three weeks ago, we were turned around because the trail was impassable, to us, because of ice. We had made it to within about 1/2 mile of the top. Starting in Berry Hollow, we spent a lot of time looking for, and finding, the history of those that used to live there. With the temp around 20, mud was no problem. Once we made it to the top, we fully understood what Old Rag was all about. The amazing rock formations and spetacular views mean we will return. Calm winds allowed for the photos I had hoped for. Being able to see the area we lived at was pretty neat. Coming down, we saw something I had never read, or heard, anyone talk about. We were able to locate two of the falls in White Oak Canyon. It had also warmed up to the point that there were some pretty slick muddy spots on the trail.

larrysnatureshots.com


By: Chris & Megan Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, February 24, 2008

Megan's 3rd time and first for Chris.  Even on a chilly February day, we arrived too late at 9:30 to find a spot in the upper parking lot.  It was a beautiful clear day and warmed up to about 45 degrees.  As a result, there was still a fair amount of ice in the shadows of the rocks, which made for some tricky, slippery scrambling.  The fire road on the backside of the loop, however, found enough warmth to melt into a muddy mess.  We did have the privilege of meeting a neighborhood dog from the bottom of the mountain who climbed up most of the front side and was enjoying the sun on a rock near the top.  By the time we made our way around the loop, he was back at the bottom and harassing the horses in the field next to the lower lot.  We highly recommend boots and gloves for the rock scramble.  This is a fantastic hike, and we had a great time! 


By: G. Jordan Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, January 20, 2008
We went during one of the windiest and coldest time of the year which made it difficult to tackle.  I think the snow made it much more challenging from both directions.   The rock scramble was extremely fun!  We enjoyed this hike so much, that we did it twice that month before all of the snow melted.  We highly recommend this hike during the the winter.

By: John Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, January 04, 2008

Just did this hike for the first time. Fantastic, I didn't realize that VA had this kind of hike. It was really nice to get out of the trees, it felt almost like hiking in Maine. Got on the trail at about 9:30, and there were only a couple of other cars in the upper lot (By the time we were back down, it was full). We saw a grand total of 5 other hikers the entire day, and I think that winter is definitely the time to do this trip. An added bonus is that without the leaves on the trees, you get more views from lower on the mountain. The cold wasn't really an issue except when we stopped for lunch on the summit and the wind caught you standing still.

Gloves are a must in the cold, even if you have tough hands. I found that handling the rocks while climbing chilled my otherwise warm glove-less hands very quickly and I had to put them back on.

I will jump on the boot bandwagon - wear them. I think you would be safe in sneakers if you have good ankles, but you feet will be hugely sore because the soles aren't stiff enough.

My final thought is that the climb to and from the fire road is comparatively gentle. If you are concerned about the rockscramble, you can get to the peak without too much difficulty by this route.


By: Mike Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, December 17, 2007
I couldn't have said it better than the previous post by John. I am from Maine and I was thinking the same thing as I was hiking. I didn't realize that there were such great hikes down here. It felt like the White Mountains and it was great to hike it in the winter. I heard it gets very busy in the summer and can see how it wouldn't be as much fun that way. One of my favorites!

By: Mac Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, December 01, 2007
First Time for our family of four (ages 39,36,13 &10).  39 degrees at start at 0900 -- hiked up the ridge trail.  Awesome.  Light traffic on the trail and got up before traffic started heading down.  Hike to summit took  2:10.  Leaves covered the trail making rock/root ID and footing tricky.  Water was freezing above 2500 and puddles were frozen.  Scramble was awesome.  Wear gloves that grip, hiking boots, not sneakers and pants that you don't mind sliding down granite on.  Came down via the saddle trail to the logging road & back to the parking lot in 1:15 with little trouble or traffic.  Picked up some garbage along the way.  Pls do the same as some are inconsiderate. Looking forward to coming back again.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, November 30, 2007
I decided to do this hike on my 50th birthday.  This was my third hike of Old Rag.   First time when trees were bare.  I took a friend along--his first hike.  We are both in very good shape, the weather was cold, clear, and perfect.   We did the circuit  starting from the upper parking lot in 4 hours (including two 10 minute stops along the peaks to drink in the magnificent views on both sides of the ridgeline).   We just departed the summit heading down, thinking the day could not get any better, when we spotted a big black bear (a male, appx 300 lbs,and he seemed very mature) just off the trail about 5 yards in the woods, 25 feet away from us.  We both deliberately froze, and waited to see what the bear would do.  The bear came out and on to the trail, still about 25 feet away and remained stationary.  He turned towards us and looked at us.  Using my best ventriloquism, I said, "ok, I wonder what he'll do next?  If he comes at us we can't run, we can't climb a tree, and we can't play possum--all no go's when confronted by a black bear, and I'm not going back to the parking lot the way we came.  The only way back was walking past the bear."   The bear stood his ground for a few minutes--then my hiking buddy, an experienced Alaska guy, instructed that we should raise our arms in unison, making us look bigger, and begin shouting.  We did this, and the bear gave us a long stare, and then slowly mosied down the trail, stopping once, to look back at us.  We shouted again and then he dashed into the woods--not to be seen again.   It was an amazing experience to be up close and personal with a large beautiful creature, and somewhat high adventure, not knowing if we'd be his lunch.   Needless to say, I'll remember my 50th!  

By: Rambo Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 24, 2007
This was a wonderful hike. My friend and I ended up completing the loop in just over 3 1/2 hours. We started early and only ran into a few others making the loop in the oposite direction. This hike is a must do, and I will definately be doing it again. The next time though I will probably end up climbing the front half and then climbing down the front as well, because the last couple of miles, the loop is just an old fire road which made it kind of boring. I would suggest that you bring a good pair of gloves due to having to climb so many rocks and boulders. This trail gets an "A" on my list of favorites.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 24, 2007
A wonderful day was had and we were tired at the end. It took us eight hours at a liesurely pace with many breaks to sit and enjoy the pretty crisp day. My freind with her two children ( 7 and 12 ) were challenged and enjoyed their first hike on Old Rag. I will be back in the spring in better shape to enjoy it again and maybe there will not be so many passing us on the trail. I had remembered it to be easier the last time.

By: Doug Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 17, 2007

What a great experience.  This was my 3rd time.  I was concerned the 44 degree weather would be an issue, but since it is a rigorous hike we were very comfortable.  A little less wind would have been better.  Unlike my other 2 hikes we saw  NO ONE or heard NO ONE  the entire hike.  We had solitude.  It was a beautiful day.  The color of the leaves were incredible since fall held on so long.  We did see some ice and snow on the ground.  I'm 49, and although challenging, it was not overwhelming.  Unlike any other East coast hike I've experienced.  Regardless of the temp gloves are helpful.


By: BHN Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 17, 2007
The colors were spectacular and the climb was great. Our group of 5 boyscouts and 3 leaders took 6 hours to hike the loop from the lower parking lot, including about 1/2 hour lunch break at the summit, plus at least another 1/2 hour "caught in traffic" in a couple of the tight spots going up. All in all a great climb! I hadn't been on the mountain in about 7 years, and I'm determined not to let as much time pass in the future between hikes. I was a little surprised at how crowded it was. When we got to the lower lot at about 8:30 am it had about 20 cars (we checked the upper lot; it was full). By the time we got back, the entire lower lot seemed to be full, including one large bus. Still well worth it.

By: Amy Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 10, 2007

I hiked this with a friend after a rainy Friday.  I was concerned that the rocks might be slick, and this was compounded by the sign at the lower parking lot that the Ranger did not recommend summitting that day due to snow and ice at the top.  But, we went for it anyway, and it was still a great hike -- it wasn't too slick .  We summitted in about 2 hours, and it was a bit cold and windy at the top, but still magnificent.  I would not recommend hiking on a day like that with any shoe other than hiking sneakers/boots, though.  We had to trust our shoes a lot to get up some of the more slippery slopes.


By: Jim Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 03, 2007
What an amazing hike!  At times it felt like I was in line at a amusment park.  In the end though any problems you might have will soon be gone when you get to the summit.  What a spectacular view. 

By: Eric Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 03, 2007
I've hiked this mountain a few times and it is my favorite.  I brought my oldest son on this trip and it was a real pleasure to share such a wonderful place with him.  I have never been to the mountain when there was such a huge crowd.  At one point, we had to wait in line for 45 minutes, but besides that, it was a beautiful day.

By: Maxine Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, October 28, 2007
What an awesome day!  It was my 43rd birthday and last time I did this hike I was 25 and way out of shape.  I remembered huffing and puffing all the way up, and thinking back, we only got to the first rock ledge.  So, in better shape, and with three adventurous kids (13, 11 and 9), I decided I wanted to try again.  Well, what a difference stopping smoking and working out makes.  I barely broke a sweat until we started up the rocks.  Afraid of heights and nervous for the kids, we overcame all and had a fantastic day.  A bit sore today, given that we missed the part about pulling ourselves up by our hands and feet (hadn't found this site).  Also, the rocks are definitely slick.  It was humbling to be sliding along a rock on my butt as a reasonably elderly Chinese couple fairly skipped by us - we caught up with them later as they were sipping hot tea out of a thermos - talk about prepared.  It was a clear day and we could see for MILES.  This is not for the faint of heart, but there was a big mix of people there, from Sunday hikers like us to serious runners, who appeared to be running with no fear of twisted ankles or broken limbs - ah, youth!

By: Ryan Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, October 18, 2007
This was my second time hiking Old Rag and I enjoyed it much more the second time around.  The weather was nice, although unseasonably warm for late October.   The directions provided by the search engine linked to the Hiking Upward Old Rag page were not very helpful and we arrived at noon after planning to get there around 10 A.M..  We had just missed getting the last spot in the parking lot nearest to the trailhead, so I advise getting there as early as possible.  The views are amazing, the hike itself involves a good degree of physical exertion and it is necessary to climb through very steep and nearly vertical passages through the rocks.  We came across a black bear on the way down that did not seem interested in moving so we decided to turn around and go back the way we came. On our way back down we came across a large black snake in the middle of the path.  It curled into a defensive posture, but was kind enough to allow us to take some good pictures of it up close, as I think it was far too scared to pose any real threat so long as we kept a reasonable distance.  All in all the hike is a can't miss and I recommend it completely.

By: Jen, Erin and Todd Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, October 14, 2007
I am visiting my friends from the altitude-challenged state of Florida and I loved this hike! We got going about 10am from the lower parking area and were hiking for about 5.5 hours. It was a perfect autumn day with sunny skies and very light wind at the top. We didn't see any bears although Erin and Todd reported a very close encounter from a previous hike. The rocks were a bit challenging and it is obviously a popular hike but the views were incredible. Completing this hike is rewarding and soul-enriching!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, October 11, 2007
Today was a very windy day to climb the mountain, we got a late start around 3:00.  We made the mistake of parking in the lower lot, with out checking if the upper lot had any room(it did).  We then were worried about getting to the summit in time so we really had a quick pace up the mountain.  My daughter 10 yrs. old really enjoyed the hike and kept telling us just a little bit more.  We called her our motivational sherpa.  Well, it seemed like we were never going to get to the top to see the view and after an hour and 40 mins. we made it to the first rock scramble.  We took some pictures and rested alittle, and the clouds were moving in and it looked like rain.  We were worried about it getting dark so we headed back down.  It was alittle chilly on the way down.  We didn't see any wildlife.  We finally saw a squirrel on the road near the trailhead.  I would recommend this hike.  It is well worth it getting to the top.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, October 09, 2007

Old Rag is simply one of the best hikes in VA. As many of the previous reviewers have mentioned, the panorama of the SNP is sublime, the scrambles are challenging, and the crowds can be large. With around 10 hikes under my belt, here are a some suggestions for a more enjoyable day:

1)If you have to go during the weekend, go on Sunday and start after lunch. I've never seen more than 4 or 5 people at the top at any given time, and sometimes none at all (this may be offensive to some hikers' early-to-rise trail ethic...).   Also, the heat isn't as oppressive and the bugs are less omnipresent in the late afternoon.

2) Hike the opposite way. You'll never be waiting in line at the scrambles...

3) Park @ Berry Hollow on the opposite side of the mountain. Far fewer people set off from this destination and you complete the fire road at the begining, not at the end of your hike.


By: Robert Meyers Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, October 02, 2007
Tough going, harder than I remembered from two years earlier. Early rain kept the temperatures cool but it cleared enough to dry the stone. Wonderful twists turns tunnels and cracks. A little bit of color in the trees but mostly a sea of green. The forest along the fire road has really suffered from the drought and the stream is barely running. Copperhead on the Saddle Trail. Otherwise only squirrels, chipmunks, buzzards and woolybears. No bugs except around the Old Rag shelter.

By: D Johnson Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, September 19, 2007
Great hike, wore me out, and I am fairly in shape.  Took 3.5 hours, and we kept a steady pace, not too fast for the older members of our group.  The best part was seeing a black bear cub about 10-15 below us on the trail near the top.  Views were also fantastic of both sides of the mountain, and rocks were fun to climb and jump across.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, September 17, 2007
Did this hike today and loved it.  I am originally from New England and have done tons of hiking there and the terrain is certainly different down here.  This is the first hike that I've done here that really ranks up with some of the major challenges that are in northern NH and Maine.  The rock scramble was definitely a challenge (espicially for someone 5 foot 8) but it was well worth it for the views.  And the 4.5 mile gradual downhill was a great cool-down after expending quite a bit of effort on the way up.  I would like to see a more detailed description of the scramble in print somewhere, just to give the hiker an idea of what they are getting into.  All in all, a great day.

By: Andy Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, September 16, 2007
Very good hike.  I met the ranger who didn't know how to work the credit card machine as well.  The bugs were not bad at all.  The temp was between 60-65 i would say.  I hiked the loop coming down the fire roads on the back side in about 6 hrs.  The rock scramble definitely had a couple difficult spots.  Hiking boots would be a help but not necessary. Hope this helps.

By: Bob Loblaw Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, August 27, 2007
First time hiker and I loved it.  I would've given it a 5star rating if the dumb park ranger in the parking lot knew how to use the credit card machine.  Bugs aren't bad as long as you have bug spray.  I used my hiking boots and the grip on the rocks was better than my gf's who used her old running shoes.  Just use some fairly new athletic shoes with a good sole.

By: DC Hiker Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, August 25, 2007
Do not hike Old Rag in August - the bugs were terrible, repeat, terrible! These biting flies were swarming all over everyone, even at the top. I felt like an animal carcass there were so many bugs. I came back covered in bites. I wouldn't hike this area for six weeks, until the bugs have subsided.

An additional tip: Wear sneakers not hiking boots; they make it easier to grip on the rock scramble.

By: clind Rating: Date of Hike: Friday, July 06, 2007

Outstanding hike!  I parked in betweed the lower and upper lots, not realizing that I could have parked closer.  The hike still only took about 3:10.  I packed 74 oz water/gatorade, food and first aid in the fanny pack and took off.  The first part of the hike is a gradual ascent to towards the rock scramble.  Not very steep, certainly not as steep as Little Devil Stairs or even Whiteoak Canyon.  Ah, but the scramble - great fun and excellent views!  Some of the areas of the rock scramble required some creativity, but none were very precarious.  I'm not much of a climber, but I am 6'5", so the long legs probably heiped.  Spent about 25 minutes up at the top, going from boulder to boulder, then headed back down.  Got down to the car in a little over an hour, but did run some of the fire road, as it is an easy trail.  Upper parking lot was full when I passed it at about 11 a.m. and people were walking up from the overflow.


By: Ian07 Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, July 01, 2007
Great hike - the rock scramble was challenging at times (there was one rock I was not sure I could make it up without the help of a friend) but overall it was not too bad.

By: Max Rating: Date of Hike: Wednesday, June 27, 2007
This was a lot of fun! no doubt, it is difficult, but the views on the summit are completely worth it. I think that the most difficult portion of the hike is between the trailhead and the beginning of the rock scramble. the rock scramble was my favorite part by far.  the only reason I didn't give this 5 stars is that the return hike was a bit boring, especially the 3 mile flat road at the end.  my legs were about to fall off and it seemed like that i would never get back.

By: Tim Bo Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, June 24, 2007

This was my first hike; recommended to me by a friend that did it last summer.  I am in fairly moderate shape and did not have any major issues with Old Rag.  I am 6'2" so the rock scramble (my favorite part) was a little easier for me.  It was a great hike with amazing viewpoints.  Overall, for it being my first hike and seeing the "difficult" reviews; I would have to say that it was easier than I expected.  I completed the trip in 4 hours with a half hour for lunch and several 5-10 minute stops on the way up.

Be sure to check out the stream by the 10 car parking lot; it's another nice photo op.


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, June 10, 2007

This is the best trail!!!  I have done this trail several times since 1998.  I found going up the fire trail first, then scrambling down the rocks instead of up is much more enjoyable.  My recommendations are as follows:  Ensure you have a full camel back for drinking, and extra water in your vehicle.  Carry a pair of sturdy, velcro straped sandals that have the toe open.  A lot of people's tops of their toes start to hurt from the constant going down the mountain.   Energy bars or food that will keep. Weight lifting gloves for the scrambling on the rocks.  A sturdy walking stick that also serves to help people up or down tough spots.  A good rag to wipe sweat off.  I am not a bear expert, but have seen a bear more than once.  One was pacing us.  We just talked really loud.  That seemed to work.

You have had a great work out by the end of the day.


By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, May 28, 2007
What an awesome hike!  I'm not a hiker, and not in good shape, but am very determined.  I wasn't anticipating the degree of difficulty at all.  Just getting to the rock scramble is a lot of work.  And once you're there and running out of energy, those boulders are tough!  It helps to be tall to get up and over some of the rocks.  I needed help on one, and don't like heights or crevices so my buddy had to find an alternate route for me on one of the rocks.  I definitely wasn't ready for this incredible hike, but managed to get through it.  It was awesome!

By: Still gittin along Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 26, 2007

Super hike!  Warm humid day, that's OK, I needed to sweat.   I had been worried that the trail would be too crowded on Mem Day weekend, but not a problem.  There were only a few times of 1-2 minute waits at certain chokepoints.  Our group went at a moderate pace on this warm day.  We had a leisurely lunch, at least 45 min., and totaled, i think, 5.5 hours roundtrip (from lower parking area).

There was a dog (beagle) by himself on the rocks, past that first drop-in slot.  What should we have done?  Rangers down below were gone by the time we got back to parking area.


By: Northeast hiker Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 05, 2007
Conditions: 55 degrees at the trailhead at approx. 9:30AM.  Overcast.  Sprinkling on the descent, steady rain around 1:45PM, on return to lower lot. I've hiked Old Rag using the the loop described here 3 times in the last 7 years, and the last time (in 2005) and today, I noticed significant wear on the rocks on the scrambles, which makes it tougher to find good hand or foot holds.  It's almost as though the rocks have become "oiled," too, from the hands of hikers, which makes gripping challengng.  I would not recommend ascending via the route described here if it is raining, despite another reviewer's comments that she had.  The rocks are slick even without the rain, and unless you are dressed for the weather, you're likely to become uncomfortable and chilled if you have a long wait to ascend.  Even with the wait, we summited in approx. 2.25 hours (from the upper parking lot).  Return to the upper lot via fire road was about 1.75 hours.

By: Jerry W Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, April 22, 2007
Just returned from the Old Rag hike.  What a blast.  It was a beautfully clear day.  Temperatures in the 70s.  What a workout!  Unlike most people, I wasn't taking it easy.  I wanted to get to the top as fast as I could.  It still took just under two hours from the lower parking lot.  The entire hike was just under 4 hours.  It says 8 miles here on Hiking Upward but I hiked it today with my ForeRunner 305 and that said 9 miles from the lower parking lot to the summit and back down the back side via the fire road.  And it felt like 9 miles!  This is my 3rd time and the rock scramble is still a challenge.  But it's also the best part of the hike!  I had 48 oz of gatorade.  Not enough!   I killed another 32 oz Coke later and still another 32 oz of water and now I finally feel hydrated again.  This is easily one of my favorite hikes.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, April 21, 2007
AWESOME!!! This was my first hike in a few years and I had never been to Old Rag. It was so amazing! We did the full loop along the Ridge Trail to Saddle and on down the Weakley Fire Road. Ridge is hardcore! Its a constant uphill slope with rocks ands steps all along the way. My legs felt were feeling like jello about the time we reached the rock scramble. I'm an experienced climber, so those rocks were a welcome relief from the arduous hike up the mountain! There are a few tight spots where my backpack got wedged between some rocks, so pack light! If you aren't a climber I would definitely suggest hiking with a buddy for some boosts. There were a few spots where tunnels and crevices opened up to sheer cliffs and the views were amazing (beware all those afraid of heights). At the summit I climbed onto the highest rock and took in the awesome 360 degree views, a MUST. Near the top, we stopped for some much needed rest and just as one of us commented on how quiet it was, a raven flew by and we could hear his wings beating against the air... crazy! After all of the uphill hike and rock scrambles, heading down the milder Saddle Trail was a welcome relief. The view of the summit from the Saddle Trail and Weakley Fire Road was great and I found myself thinking, "we were all the way up there?" I left completely exhausted but and so overwhelmed by the awesome beauty! We only took a few quick breaks to sit because we were running out of sun, which made it even more exhausting. I would recommend taking your time along the trail and bring lots of water. My two hiking buddies both ran out and ended up drinking from my 2-liter camelback. Its a hike you'll never forget!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, April 16, 2007
This hike is AMAZING.  My friend and I decided to do it on a very rainy Saturday-- not the brightest idea but since she flew down from Connecticut especially, we couldn't exactly cancel!  We're not very experienced hikers but we're training to climb Kilimanjaro later this year.  It was tough- I'm not going to lie!  A few times we looked at the rock scramble and thought- you have GOT to be kidding, we'll wait here!  But actually, it was exhilirating.  Suggestions: gloves or hand protection-- they can get pretty torn up on some of the climbing, no low hiking boots-- you need the high ones!  Also, pack light- some of the crevices are tight but bring lots of water and layers, it was cold when we started but we were stripping off pretty quickly despite the rain and wind!  Knee pads might have been smart too!  I likened some of the climbing to reaching for something on a high kitchen shelf-- you had to kind of lift up on your knees a few times. Unfortunately, there was too much fog and cloud coverage to see too much but the climb itself was just SO beautiful.  I would recommend this to anyone who was looking for a challenge-- just remember where you put your car!  We ended up having to back track and our legs were about the fall out from under us by the time we finished.  I'd do it again tomorrow if I could!

By: Patty Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, March 31, 2007

This is one of my favorite hikes.   We arrived at the parking lot early and found a space in the upper parking lot.  The weather was beautiful and the trail wasn't crowded.    Recommend hiking with a buddy on this hike.  The Rock Scrambles are difficult and a hand or a push/lift are  needed at times.  The first time I hiked this trail I experienced anxiety on the high peaks and swore I would never hike Old Rag again.   After hiking this 4 more times I feel secure and enjoy the challenge.  The views are beautiful, the rock scrambles are challenging.  Look forward to future hikes on Old Rag. 


By: Robert Potts Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, February 03, 2007
This hike was a birthday celebration for Abby and our first trip to Old Rag. In the main parking lot we asked some “men with axes” for advice on the routes to the summit, casually mentioning our fear of heights. (The “men with axes” were clearing the trails of fallen timber. Volunteers we assumed.) They told us of one spot on the rock scramble route where the somewhat narrow rock you walk on slants downward toward a sheer drop off. That made our decision to go the longer way, via the Weakley Hollow Fire Road and then up the Saddle Trail to the summit. The road has a steady upward grade, offers great views of the mountain (“How are we ever getting to the top of that”), and beautiful ice covered streams. We stopped at Old Rag Shelter for a rest, snack and chat with two hikers who had camped lower down on the Mountain and then hiked up early in the morning to be at the top by sunrise. They warned us to be careful going up the Saddle Trail, slippery with ice and snow. They were right. Our hiking boots helped with traction, but the trail was slippery and steep. We moved up, slowly…one of us stopping frequently to admire the views. Hikers coming down the trail (they took the easy route!) told us it was bitter on the top. We had been warm trudging upward so we stopped at the Byrds Nest shelter to add a few layers and then climbed the last ¼ mile to the summit. The sun was out and it was beautiful on top. Cold, but still very pleasant. We ate our lunch sitting in the sun and enjoying the views. We even made a couple of cell phone calls to the family before we lost our signal. Back down the Saddle Trail (much easier than going up), down the road (a bit boring for the second time), passed by the upper parking lot (why didn’t we park there?) and back to the main lot. On the way out we stopped at the Sharp Rock Vineyard to toast a great hike and Abby’s birthday. Weeks before our trip to Old Rag, one of us had been doing some 10 mile hikes on the flat George Washington Parkway bike path. That preparation was necessary, very much so.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Monday, January 15, 2007
The unseasonably warm weather (60+degF) made for a great hike. Overcast, but no rain, with breezes at the summit. Even having read the literature on the Old Rag Ridge Trail I was still surprised by the difficulty of the rock scramble. Bouldering would be more appropriate in some sections. Albeit, adding this to a backbacking trip and hauling a 30+ pound back pack up through it made it more than challenging. If it weren't for several helpful folks who let me push my pack up to them ahead of myself, it would have taken more creativety then I had at that moment to get to the top. But after alot of huffing and puffing...I finally made it to the top. Had been there before via the Saddle trail, but as always, the views are spectacular.

I would definately recommended the buddy system on this trail and take lots of water. But a great challenge, I highly recommend it.

The saddle trail at 2 miles offers a less challenging  route up than the Ridge Trail.

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Tuesday, December 05, 2006
I have been wanting to take this hike for some time. My Brother, Greg, said when I decide to go, he would go with me. So I left The Eastern Shore of Md. at 5:45 and arrived at 0945am. Greg was waiting in parking lot. He just got their himself from Roanoke. After paying the entrance fee we decided to go to the end of 600 and park in the upper Rag lot.. Good choice.. only 1 other car their. Temp was 35 at trailhead. light wind. Very nice trail to start out. well marked and well worn! As we climbed you could already start to see nice views. the trees are leafless now. very little wildlife was encountered. I saw three deer from my car on way to lot. some squirrels on the trails. thats it.. peace and quiet.. The rock formations were spectacular. everywhere you look. The much talked about scramble was great. Greg hikes alot more than I do and it was a challenge for him.. We really enjoyed getting up, over and around those rocks. I am glad we did this together. To dangerous to be alone.. We ran into one guy who started on the weakley hollow fire road and now 4.5 miles later was encountering the scramble. he was tired. So as a recomendation, come up the Ridge trail and do the scramble first. cause the fire road is nice going down.. The view up top was great. I could see cars on skyline dr. The ravens were circling below making some peculiar noises. Temp up top about 30 with stiff breeze for teen windchills.. After descending to Byrd shelter we enjoyed our lunch. the descent was very nice and the streams were running strong.. couple campers down at Old Rag shelter were their for couple nights enjoying that BIG full moon Greg and I saw coming up this morn. Following the fire road and seeing the history of the old town and foundations there was humbling. how people lived up there in those harsh conditions amazes me . back at the lot and just about 5 hrs exactly with lunch.. great hike.. would like to come back in spring and camp...

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, November 19, 2006
We hiked Old Rag this Sunday.  We had three 35 year old Dads, one seven year old, 3 five year olds, and one 3 year old.  Of course we had to park in the lower lot.  We were a little apprehensive about the hike for our children, even though they have hiked the Maryland Heights Trail (Harpers Ferry), Sugarloaf Mountain and others multiple times.

The weather was perfect, about 50 degrees.  I felt a little over dressed in the beginning but soon the temperature dropped and I was more comfortable.  The kids started to complain about 2/3 of the way up to reach the rock scramble (bored and a little tired).

When reached the rock scramble their eyes lit up.  We had to lift the children over several areas, but they were having the time of their life.  We all had a renewed vigor with the fun and the challenge of the rock scramble.

The kids started a little complaining about 1/4 of the way down the descent, and continued some intermittent complaining until we reached the parking lot.  That having been said, they loved the hike, and cannot stop talking about it.  It was the best hike they have ever done.  It might have been a little easier without miles of the boring fire road at the bottom.

I carried my three year old on my shoulders for about 60% of the hike (what a workout).  I'm sure some naysayer might say that thats irresponsible but she (and the other kids) had the time of their lifes (we can't raise our children in bubbles).  If you are in really good shape, I would recommend taking a 3 or 4 year old, but make sure you have a strong back and legs (because you'll be carrying them some of the time), and realize that there are some risks (be careful!).

By: FakeHiker Rating: Date of Hike: Thursday, November 09, 2006
This is an awesome hike. My friend and I went on a Thursday so it wouldn't be as crowded. Even so, there were several other groups out that day. The views are beautiful, but I just have to warn everyone that this hike is maybe harder then people make it out to be! It's so popular you think of it as maybe being easier but do not be fooled. There are two parts of the difficulty: the regular sort of hiking up a mountain type exercise, and then the ROCK SCRAMBLES. Some of these scrambles are just plain fun, but some are really pretty difficult, and a couple moments are actually quite scary. My friend and I definitely had to use each other a few times to get through some scrambles, and if you're climbing with someone who gets scared easily or doesn't have very good upper body strength you might have a harder time. Also if you're shorter then you may need extra help in places.

Finally, I don't know if anyone has addressed this but there are some pretty tight squeezes in the rock scrambles, so if you're a bigger hiker you might find an added layer of difficulty that way. This also means keeping your backpack especially small.

Beautiful beautiful beautiful views, and the rock scrambles are a blast. Do this hike, but don't underestimate its difficulty.

By: ElliottsKnob Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, November 04, 2006
Six weeks after our youth group hike my daughter and some of her friends returned to Old Rag. My shoulder [injured on the previous trip] was still sore but I managed to pull through the rocks pretty well. The colors were pretty magnificent and the crowds were there in force. We spent a lot of time waiting at the climbing points. Hats off to Bear, who made this hike with a three year old! His story proves we know our own kids abilities. My kids could climb rocks all day, but never wanted a long hike on a fire road. We actually went up and down the rocks to avoid that.

By: ElliottsKnob Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, September 23, 2006
We took our Church youth on what has become an annual adventure, hiking Old Rag. With 10 kids [junior high and high school] we had a fabulous time. One person had a LARGE school backpack full of clothes and water bottles. I bet one of  the adults that I would end up carrying that thing. Ahh, youth! Several of her friends pitched in and I never shouldered the overweight load. Great team building excercise. We had fun climbing the rocks, but I discovered, much to my chagrin, that my Vasque boots slipped right off some of the wet places on the rocks. I was being bested by kids in tennies! To add injury to insult, I had a fairly nasty fall on the Saddle Trail coming down. Saw lots of young kids [seven, eight, nine...] on the mountain having a ball! This trip it was the adults who were taking a beating. As we finished the hike, a beautiful Yearling Black Bear walked across the trailhead parking lot! The kids loved it!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, May 13, 2006
An amazing hike that lasted all afternoon.   We had rain off and on throughout the afternoon and the hardest rain came at the top.  It was refreshing for sure.  THis shot is from the top looking almost due north.  The sun came out as it was raining.  It's a tough hike so bring lots of water and energy!  ENJOY!

By: Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, June 25, 2005
I hike this 5 times every summer for work and on my own. If you like this hike, you might also like White Oak Canyon/Ceder Run which is in Syria. Take Etlan road to the T and turn right onto Rt. 600. No views but great hike and beautiful waterfalls. While you are in the area, stop by The Little Country Store in Etlan and talk to the locals, we love to meet new people, just don't ask us for directions- bring your own.

By: Doug Axelrod Rating: Date of Hike: Saturday, December 04, 2004
I love this hike.  My scout troop (673) takes this hike every year in december to camp just beyond byrds nest (the first shelter).  The colder, the better the trip.  Always a good time!  I had a 7 year streak going till this past year when I couldn't make it.  It was a humbling experience at 13 years old and still a learning experience at 20.  I would recommend camping in december to anyone interested in a cold challenge (add 6 inches of snow and it gets interesting).

By: Nathan Rating: Date of Hike: Sunday, April 03, 1988
I hiked this thing for the first time yesterday. It afforded some gorgeous views of the surrounding Blue Ridge Mountains and was well worth the (at times) strenuous climb. I must say that I was unprepared for the rock scramble. I didn't want to look at pictures of the trail lest they spoil the views. But my girlfriend and I managed to make our way through, over, below, etc., the boulders. (It's nice to have a buddy on this trail that can help pull you up on the more challenging parts.) Bring lots of liquids and a lunch and snacks.

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